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<blockquote data-quote="ZzarkLinux" data-source="post: 6857062" data-attributes="member: 77932">I wish the mobile site had a laugh button... Hope it gets fixed soon.I was in a big 3.5 game back in 2004 and had minor exposure to 2e before that. I prefer 4e a lot, but acknowledge that I have no attachment to any novels or settings. The first official setting I recognize is &quot;3.5 Great Wheel&quot; (yes yes, I know the Plane of Salt &amp; stuff goes back before 3.5). Of course I prefer the Wold Axis version X-D I didn't buy settings before 4e !The CCG term is wierd for me. If someone accuses 4e of &quot;being a CCG&quot; then I disagree. But if someone says &quot;I feel like 4e is a CCG&quot; then I acknowledge their view. CCG is kinda shorthand for:4e PHB bucked tradition. 2e PHB claimed OD&amp;D 1e compatability.4e PHB had brighter fantasy artwork. 2e had dark shading &amp; realistic artwork.4e PHB didn't reference old settings much. 2e PHB didn't have settings to refer to?4e PHB/MM were organized rulebooks. 2e core books were I assume rules novels?4e PHB denied the OGL, and was funded by MtG - The Company. Did TSR sell CCGs?4e PHB cleric was just another healer. 2e PHB cleric was the only allowed healer.4e PHB had back-to-back pages of power cards with no artwork... or &quot;toon&quot; artwork.4e MM had the Nymph and Succubus as Politically correct. 2e showed skin.So what did we miss from 2e? It attempted backward compatability, it used realistic artwork, it didn't ignore settings, it was written like a novel, it wasn't tied to a prominent CCG company, it wasn't responsible for ending the OGL, it enshrined the cleric with exclusive healing, didn't have back-to-back pages of Rules Boxes (with a token line of flavor text at the top), and it took the clothes off the succubus.What did I miss?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ZzarkLinux, post: 6857062, member: 77932"] I wish the mobile site had a laugh button... Hope it gets fixed soon. I was in a big 3.5 game back in 2004 and had minor exposure to 2e before that. I prefer 4e a lot, but acknowledge that I have no attachment to any novels or settings. The first official setting I recognize is "3.5 Great Wheel" (yes yes, I know the Plane of Salt & stuff goes back before 3.5). Of course I prefer the Wold Axis version X-D I didn't buy settings before 4e ! The CCG term is wierd for me. If someone accuses 4e of "being a CCG" then I disagree. But if someone says "I feel like 4e is a CCG" then I acknowledge their view. CCG is kinda shorthand for: 4e PHB bucked tradition. 2e PHB claimed OD&D 1e compatability. 4e PHB had brighter fantasy artwork. 2e had dark shading & realistic artwork. 4e PHB didn't reference old settings much. 2e PHB didn't have settings to refer to? 4e PHB/MM were organized rulebooks. 2e core books were I assume rules novels? 4e PHB denied the OGL, and was funded by MtG - The Company. Did TSR sell CCGs? 4e PHB cleric was just another healer. 2e PHB cleric was the only allowed healer. 4e PHB had back-to-back pages of power cards with no artwork... or "toon" artwork. 4e MM had the Nymph and Succubus as Politically correct. 2e showed skin. So what did we miss from 2e? It attempted backward compatability, it used realistic artwork, it didn't ignore settings, it was written like a novel, it wasn't tied to a prominent CCG company, it wasn't responsible for ending the OGL, it enshrined the cleric with exclusive healing, didn't have back-to-back pages of Rules Boxes (with a token line of flavor text at the top), and it took the clothes off the succubus. What did I miss? [/QUOTE]

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