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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6862323" data-attributes="member: 87792">Ironically this is why Story-Games and RPGs like Fate are much much better for immersive roleplaying where you make decisions as someone who exists in a world than attempts at world simulation and physics-sims. The mechanics of a story-game exist to align the thoughts of the players and the motivations of the player with those of the character they are trying to play. More physics-based rule that take little account of the psychology and motivations of the characters, and their connection to the wider world, lead to abstract play where you have a pawn that might as well be a playing piece rather than a part of the setting. And bad motivational guidance like classic two axis alignment that's just a thorough going mess almost enforces that you will play your character as a playing piece by putting a hard no in the rules whether or not it makes psychological sense for the character.And due to the granular nature of rules any physics sim with anything even slightly resembling XP is setting up gamist rules and encouraging pawn-play. If instead you want characters to be part of a world then the important part of being part of a world isn't whether a longsword does d8 or d10 damage. It's how you get on with your neighbour. And the rules should focus on that.The central conceit of Dungeons and Dragons was "Why can't we break the rules of a wargame so we can win and have fun through subverting the gamist structure as a part of pawn play".  If you don't think that pawn play is a good thing don't play Dungeons and Dragons.</blockquote>

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