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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6863470" data-attributes="member: 23751">Of course they do.&nbsp; Healing before then is like combat, a necessary evil in order for the game to be playable.&nbsp; There is no way to describe damage that isn't 100% meat and let's the PCs know how much damage has been taken.&nbsp; There is also no way to describe non-meat damage that has no sign, but that the PC can know about.&nbsp; Further, almost every way to describe non-meat damage also describes the PCs in non-combat situations.&nbsp; Fatigue happens out of combat, so unless you expect the clerics to go around healing the PCs when they get tired or winded from a jog, that doesn't work to describe hit points.&nbsp; Other non-meat descriptions have similar circumstances.I also tried that in 2e and abandoned it for the same reasons you did.&nbsp; I'm not even sure they made it to 3rd level before I tossed in that towel.I agree.&nbsp; That's a 4e/5e mistake.&nbsp; Most hits that I describe are a combination of luck, skill, meat, and so on.&nbsp; The meat being scratches, bruises and such until the hit points are low enough to warrant larger injuries.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6863470, member: 23751"] Of course they do. Healing before then is like combat, a necessary evil in order for the game to be playable. There is no way to describe damage that isn't 100% meat and let's the PCs know how much damage has been taken. There is also no way to describe non-meat damage that has no sign, but that the PC can know about. Further, almost every way to describe non-meat damage also describes the PCs in non-combat situations. Fatigue happens out of combat, so unless you expect the clerics to go around healing the PCs when they get tired or winded from a jog, that doesn't work to describe hit points. Other non-meat descriptions have similar circumstances. I also tried that in 2e and abandoned it for the same reasons you did. I'm not even sure they made it to 3rd level before I tossed in that towel. I agree. That's a 4e/5e mistake. Most hits that I describe are a combination of luck, skill, meat, and so on. The meat being scratches, bruises and such until the hit points are low enough to warrant larger injuries. [/QUOTE]

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