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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6863491" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>And you read my posts about as well as you do the Fate rules. Fate is a tabletop RPG. It is however a tabletop RPG that has chosen to take on the problems of a tabletop RPG and do something about them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I understand where you are coming from. Not knowing what an RPG is and trying to reduce them into boardgames.</p><p></p><p>The purpose of D&D's XP rules is to provide incentive for players to do what the game wants them to. In oD&D and 1e this was very clear - and was the whole purpose of the XP for GP rule - manipulating the players into the desired playstyle. It was far from an objective ruleset. By your definition oD&D and 1E were not RPGs.</p><p></p><p>As you are using your own almost unique definition of what an RPG is <em>that excludes Gary Gygax's D&D</em> then I think we can agree that there's no point continuing this conversation. You can invent your RPG Purity Tests all you like - but you aren't Humpty Dumpty. Words don't mean what you want them to if you pay them more - and if your definitions exclude the deliberate design intent of oD&D and 1e then they are objectively wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6863491, member: 87792"] And you read my posts about as well as you do the Fate rules. Fate is a tabletop RPG. It is however a tabletop RPG that has chosen to take on the problems of a tabletop RPG and do something about them. I understand where you are coming from. Not knowing what an RPG is and trying to reduce them into boardgames. The purpose of D&D's XP rules is to provide incentive for players to do what the game wants them to. In oD&D and 1e this was very clear - and was the whole purpose of the XP for GP rule - manipulating the players into the desired playstyle. It was far from an objective ruleset. By your definition oD&D and 1E were not RPGs. As you are using your own almost unique definition of what an RPG is [I]that excludes Gary Gygax's D&D[/I] then I think we can agree that there's no point continuing this conversation. You can invent your RPG Purity Tests all you like - but you aren't Humpty Dumpty. Words don't mean what you want them to if you pay them more - and if your definitions exclude the deliberate design intent of oD&D and 1e then they are objectively wrong. [/QUOTE]
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