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<blockquote data-quote="RotGrub" data-source="post: 6865621" data-attributes="member: 6777078"><p>Off the top of my head I'm reminded of the 2e falling damage rules and mention of someone surviving a 33,330 foot fall. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Thankfully, 2e did not attempt to force any particular narrative. That kept them more abstract.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I think the mechanics of 4e and to a lesser extent 5e forces a particular narrative. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The point is that any narrative of such a wound is not available in 5e even when it does make sense to use. </p><p></p><p>Now, I've played 2e house ruled games with more realistic hit point caps. The optional critical hit location system in 2e also helps in this regard. Of course, I do recall that an old dragon magazine article that attempted to explain hps as magical. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think people always do worry about it. If they are forced to ignore it too much it can become a problem.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well PCs in 5e have even more HPs. But yes, let the blade slash open his chest and then let the cleric magically heal him. You can do that in 2e. In 5e you don't have that narrative option because the fighter can just second wind/rest himself back to full. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You need to address how overnight healing affects the game world. Does it cheapen magical healing granted to clerics by the gods? Are the PCs the only ones who heal overnight or do these rules also apply villagers? If it does apply to villagers I'd wonder if cliff jumping could become a sport. In 2e, you at least needed a cleric to engage in cliff jumping. </p><p></p><p>Which makes me wonder how a 5e DM would deal with a masochist PC that jumps off a cliff every night before bed. Now, I can't say we didn't have cliff jumping dwarves in 2e, but at least they didn't auto heal.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RotGrub, post: 6865621, member: 6777078"] Off the top of my head I'm reminded of the 2e falling damage rules and mention of someone surviving a 33,330 foot fall. Thankfully, 2e did not attempt to force any particular narrative. That kept them more abstract. I think the mechanics of 4e and to a lesser extent 5e forces a particular narrative. The point is that any narrative of such a wound is not available in 5e even when it does make sense to use. Now, I've played 2e house ruled games with more realistic hit point caps. The optional critical hit location system in 2e also helps in this regard. Of course, I do recall that an old dragon magazine article that attempted to explain hps as magical. I think people always do worry about it. If they are forced to ignore it too much it can become a problem. Well PCs in 5e have even more HPs. But yes, let the blade slash open his chest and then let the cleric magically heal him. You can do that in 2e. In 5e you don't have that narrative option because the fighter can just second wind/rest himself back to full. You need to address how overnight healing affects the game world. Does it cheapen magical healing granted to clerics by the gods? Are the PCs the only ones who heal overnight or do these rules also apply villagers? If it does apply to villagers I'd wonder if cliff jumping could become a sport. In 2e, you at least needed a cleric to engage in cliff jumping. Which makes me wonder how a 5e DM would deal with a masochist PC that jumps off a cliff every night before bed. Now, I can't say we didn't have cliff jumping dwarves in 2e, but at least they didn't auto heal. [/QUOTE]
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