Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
what is it about 2nd ed that we miss?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 6871110" data-attributes="member: 6775031"><p>Minions aside, 4E was actually super consistent about HP for anyone who wanted to play damage and healing as 99% avoidance, and you <em>could</em> also fit that model into 2E or 3E if you were so inclined. It's just that, if you <em>wanted</em> to view wounds and healing as primarily physical, which wasn't much of an issue in 2E or 3E, then inspiration healing didn't jive so well with that.</p><p></p><p>No, because <em>that</em> whole world model doesn't jive with the idea of cosmetic wounds. It doesn't accept that something as significant as a wound can exist if it isn't reflected in the model - if you actually <em>are</em> wounded, then it would be reflected somewhere; if the rules don't reflect it, then it can't be the case. If you have one fighter who looks super beaten up, and another who looks just fine, then there <em>should</em> be a mechanical difference between them.</p><p></p><p>I mean, I can get why some people wouldn't care about that sort of thing, but it feels like it comes from the same place as re-fluffing and re-skinning that is anathema to simulation.</p><p></p><p>Edit: I'm also only seeing the first 48 pages of this thread. It says your post was 480, but then mine was 554. There's definitely something weird going on with the forums.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 6871110, member: 6775031"] Minions aside, 4E was actually super consistent about HP for anyone who wanted to play damage and healing as 99% avoidance, and you [I]could[/I] also fit that model into 2E or 3E if you were so inclined. It's just that, if you [I]wanted[/I] to view wounds and healing as primarily physical, which wasn't much of an issue in 2E or 3E, then inspiration healing didn't jive so well with that. No, because [I]that[/I] whole world model doesn't jive with the idea of cosmetic wounds. It doesn't accept that something as significant as a wound can exist if it isn't reflected in the model - if you actually [I]are[/I] wounded, then it would be reflected somewhere; if the rules don't reflect it, then it can't be the case. If you have one fighter who looks super beaten up, and another who looks just fine, then there [I]should[/I] be a mechanical difference between them. I mean, I can get why some people wouldn't care about that sort of thing, but it feels like it comes from the same place as re-fluffing and re-skinning that is anathema to simulation. Edit: I'm also only seeing the first 48 pages of this thread. It says your post was 480, but then mine was 554. There's definitely something weird going on with the forums. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
what is it about 2nd ed that we miss?
Top