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<blockquote data-quote="Raven Crowking" data-source="post: 5551680" data-attributes="member: 18280"><p>Quote that or retract.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><strong><em><span style="font-size: 12px">Quote that please. I would love to read the word-for-word.</span></em></strong></p><p></p><p>But, I am guessing that you cannot. Nor can you even tell us what the source is. Is it Dragon? Which one? Is it the DMG? Where?</p><p></p><p>I have quoted the 1e books and Dragon once or twice to make a point, but "that he loves to quote all the time"? Are you confusing me with someone else?</p><p></p><p>RC dislikes having to quote those books -- it is work to do so. First off, he usually doesn't have them lying around with him. Second off, he has to retype whatever it is he wants to quote. So, if it actually comes to the point where RC quotes, you can be certain it is because that seems the only means left to carry a point after all other means have been taken.</p><p></p><p>For example, in Q's thread about leveling expectations vis-a-vis 1e and 3e, as every demonstration of problems with the methodology were largely ignored or brushed aside, I did take the time to quote both the author of 1e and the author of 3e -- the only authorities on what their expectations were -- as to what those expectations were. And I did quote B1 (which was rather funny, because it was the module Q took his user name from) to demonstrate that there was not an expectation that all treasure would be found, but rather the reverse.....and rather explicitly so.</p><p></p><p>And still that wasn't enough to demonstrate authorial intent for some folks! Neither Gygax's nor Cooke's statements <strong><em>about the rate of leveling that they expected</em></strong> was taken as evidenciary<em><strong> of the rate of leveling that they expected</strong></em>.</p><p></p><p>For another example, when someone says "Earlier games where I was told if I don't follow the letter of the rules I'm not playing the game the way it's intended" I <em><strong>might</strong></em> be tempted to quote the exact opposite from the rules.</p><p></p><p>I imagine that you are misremembering Gygax's Preface to the 1e DMG.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You may have failed to read on.</p><p></p><p>Look, I certainly hold that statements of the author are the primary vehicle for determining authorial intent, just as you would hope that I would take statements of Hussar as the primary vehicle for determining Hussar's intent.</p><p></p><p>But, within the context of the fictional universe, any interpretation that matches the fiction is equally valid. Heck, you are talking about a person who has repeatedly argued the same about <em><strong>the actual universe</strong></em> -- any model that predicts actual experience is valid to the degree that it predicts that experience.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As do we all.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>RC</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Raven Crowking, post: 5551680, member: 18280"] Quote that or retract. [B][I][SIZE="3"]Quote that please. I would love to read the word-for-word.[/SIZE][/I][/B] But, I am guessing that you cannot. Nor can you even tell us what the source is. Is it Dragon? Which one? Is it the DMG? Where? I have quoted the 1e books and Dragon once or twice to make a point, but "that he loves to quote all the time"? Are you confusing me with someone else? RC dislikes having to quote those books -- it is work to do so. First off, he usually doesn't have them lying around with him. Second off, he has to retype whatever it is he wants to quote. So, if it actually comes to the point where RC quotes, you can be certain it is because that seems the only means left to carry a point after all other means have been taken. For example, in Q's thread about leveling expectations vis-a-vis 1e and 3e, as every demonstration of problems with the methodology were largely ignored or brushed aside, I did take the time to quote both the author of 1e and the author of 3e -- the only authorities on what their expectations were -- as to what those expectations were. And I did quote B1 (which was rather funny, because it was the module Q took his user name from) to demonstrate that there was not an expectation that all treasure would be found, but rather the reverse.....and rather explicitly so. And still that wasn't enough to demonstrate authorial intent for some folks! Neither Gygax's nor Cooke's statements [B][I]about the rate of leveling that they expected[/I][/B] was taken as evidenciary[I][B] of the rate of leveling that they expected[/B][/I]. For another example, when someone says "Earlier games where I was told if I don't follow the letter of the rules I'm not playing the game the way it's intended" I [I][B]might[/B][/I] be tempted to quote the exact opposite from the rules. I imagine that you are misremembering Gygax's Preface to the 1e DMG. You may have failed to read on. Look, I certainly hold that statements of the author are the primary vehicle for determining authorial intent, just as you would hope that I would take statements of Hussar as the primary vehicle for determining Hussar's intent. But, within the context of the fictional universe, any interpretation that matches the fiction is equally valid. Heck, you are talking about a person who has repeatedly argued the same about [I][B]the actual universe[/B][/I] -- any model that predicts actual experience is valid to the degree that it predicts that experience. As do we all. RC [/QUOTE]
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