What is the Hivemind?

[Kemrain]

But the Evil Glee feats work differently! You could qualify for that earlier.

Is that core?!

[snip]

That's interesting and useful, but I'm looking for Types of demons, not indifidual demons. Things like Incubi and Succubi, but for the other 6 Deadlies.

- Kemrain the 8th Deadly Sin.

 

[devilish]

Hm, yeah, those are pretty useful.

Like, you could argue Apollyon is Sloth and Eligor is ... Hubris, maybe.

Is there one for each of the seven sins?

There are --- Demonologist Peter Binsfield categorized them the deadly
7 in 1589. They are :

Lucifer: arrogance
Mammon: avarice
Asmodai (from where we in D&D get Asmodeus): lust
Satan: wrath
Beelzebub: gluttony
Leviathan: jealousy
Belphegor: laziness

The ones I listed in the other post were lesser generals --- commanders of armies
of 60 demons.

These are all non-D&D by the way : I have the "Book of Fiends" at home but not
sure if the "real" demons/devils are the same there as here.

 

[Kemrain]

Lucifer: arrogance
Mammon: avarice
Asmodai (from where we in D&D get Asmodeus): lust
Satan: wrath
Beelzebub: gluttony
Leviathan: jealousy
Belphegor: laziness

Those look more like, again, names of specific demons/devils, and less like types (incubus/succubus). While that's cool, it's not exactly what I'm looking for. (For instance, Asmodai is probably an Incubus, but what kind of demon is Mammon?) I found lists like that (Wikipedia has a few) but I couldn't get them to name demon races/species/breeds/types.


As far as I'm aware (and Google will tell me), there aren't names for the groups of demons of Sloth, Wrath, Gluttony, Pride, Envy, and Greed. If Google doesn't lie, Incubus is derived from the latin for "To lay uppn" and Succubus is from "To lay beneath". I've found Latin translations for the 7 deadlies..

Greed/Avarice = avaritia
Envy/Jealousy = invidia
Gluttony = gula
Lust/Lewdness = luxuria
Pride/Vanity/Hubris = superbia
Sloth/Apathy = acedia
Wrath/Hatred = ira

I'm sure some names could be constructed with these latin roots, if better names don't already exsist. I'm currently playing in a game where these names would be awfully useful about, oh, a month ago.

- Kemrain the Regretfully Picky.

 

[Jdvn1]

Is that core?!

Core what? No, remember? Decoded in the BoED web enhancement.

 

[Jdvn1]

There are --- Demonologist Peter Binsfield categorized them the deadly
7 in 1589. They are :

Lucifer: arrogance
Mammon: avarice
Asmodai (from where we in D&D get Asmodeus): lust
Satan: wrath
Beelzebub: gluttony
Leviathan: jealousy
Belphegor: laziness

The ones I listed in the other post were lesser generals --- commanders of armies
of 60 demons.

These are all non-D&D by the way : I have the "Book of Fiends" at home but not
sure if the "real" demons/devils are the same there as here.

Hm, neat. Since there probably isn't a name for each type of demon, I'd use those names as types. Blephegians. Leviathons. Beelzebian. Stuff like that.

 

[Jdvn1]

I'm currently playing in a game where these names would be awfully useful about, oh, a month ago.

- Kemrain the Regretful.

Better late than never!

 

[devilish]

Those look more like, again, names of specific demons/devils, and less like types (incubus/succubus). While that's cool, it's not exactly what I'm looking for. (For instance, Asmodai is probably an Incubus, but what kind of demon is Mammon?) I found lists like that (Wikipedia has a few) but I couldn't get them to name demon races/species/breeds/types.


As far as I'm aware (and Google will tell me), there aren't names for the groups of demons of Sloth, Wrath, Gluttony, Pride, Envy, and Greed. If Google doesn't lie, Incubus is derived from the latin for "To lay uppn" and Succubus is from "To lay beneath". I've found Latin translations for the 7 deadlies..

Greed/Avarice = avaritia
Envy/Jealousy = invidia
Gluttony = gula
Lust/Lewdness = luxuria
Pride/Vanity/Hubris = superbia
Sloth/Apathy = acedia
Wrath/Hatred = ira

I'm sure some names could be constructed with these latin roots, if better names don't already exsist. I'm currently playing in a game where these names would be awfully useful about, oh, a month ago.

- Kemrain the Regretfully Picky.

I was typing my Binsfield post while your last 2 posts --- so I wasn't ignoring
your request, just getting to it now.

No, sadly the incu/succubus demons are the only ones in human lore that
are sin-to-species-specific. Other demonologist texts include the following
species (which you've probably already googled

Fates, who alter destiny
Poltergeists, who cause mischief
Incubi(male)and Succubi(female), who stimulate lust and perversion
Marching Hordes, who bring about war
Familiars, who assist witches
Nightmares, who disturb sleep through bad dreams
Demons formed from Human Semen(deformed children such as the child from the Hull House)
Disguised Demons
Demons who Assail the Saintly
Demons who Instigate Witchcraft

Asmodai is not so much an incubus as the father of incu/succubus. So
I believe it's more that they resemble him v. he resembles them.
Mammon is portrayed as a bloated creature with a gaping maw ... mini-demons
could be constructed in his image, I suppose, but there are no
avarice-ites in my recollection.

If you're looking for Judeo-Christian/Arabic/Hindu canon, you may be
hard pressed to find species-demons. If you're looking for fictional/D&D ones,
you should check out "Book of Fiends" by Green Ronin. In there they DO have
sin-specific demons/daemons and devils --- having trouble recalling them now
but there are lots of vermin/insectoid creatures that swarm around the
bloated body of the Mammon-equivalent demon. And lust-bugs, lust-doppleganger
types, etc.

Good research on your part!

You could pull this request out of the Hivemind and into a post and get
oodles of help from those with books in front of them.

 

[Kemrain]

I was typing my Binsfield post while your last 2 posts --- so I wasn't ignoring
your request, just getting to it now.

Hehe.. Oops!

Good research on your part!

Thanks. You too! That's a lot of info.

You could pull this request out of the Hivemind and into a post and get
oodles of help from those with books in front of them.

Do you know which forum thiat should go in? It's kinda OT, kinda General...

- Kemrain the Thankful.

 

[Jdvn1]

I'd say General. It's not OT because it has to do with RPing. If some book covered it at some time it'd be Rules. If you're looking for home rules, then... yeah.

 

[devilish]

Do you know which forum thiat should go in? It's kinda OT, kinda General...

Completely in General. Off-topic are general real-life events happening
to/from/against/with ENWorlders while General thrives on topics like this.

- Kemrain the Thankful.

...hmm....how thankful?
**horns extend from forehead**

HATE when that happens (pushes horns back in.)