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<blockquote data-quote="waysoftheearth" data-source="post: 4275627" data-attributes="member: 62033"><p>Hello Intense_Interest,</p><p></p><p>Thanks for your comments, please see below for my reply:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yes, I am comparing 4E to previous versions of D&D. I believe that since D&D 4E has the "D&D" brand name all over it, it makes very good sense to do so. The publishers are using the D&D brand name to associate 4E with previous editions of the D&D game that many potential customers know and love. They are, in effect, setting our expectations that this new game will resonant with fans of the existing D&D game.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I believe there is a spectrum of <em>form</em> versus <em>function</em>. </p><p></p><p>At the <em>form</em> extreme of the spectrum would be a perfect game <em>environment</em> without a game system. Everything about it would be described in beautiful, evocative detail, but it wouldn't be much of a game because there would be no rules to govern interaction with it.</p><p></p><p>At the <em>function</em> extreme of the spectrum would be a perfect game <em>system</em> without a game environment. It would be abstract and totally perfect, but not much of a game because while it would work perfectly, it wouldn't actually describe anything meaningful.</p><p></p><p>It's my view that the best RPGs are those that are able to find just the right balance between form and function.</p><p></p><p>Thanks again for your comments <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="waysoftheearth, post: 4275627, member: 62033"] Hello Intense_Interest, Thanks for your comments, please see below for my reply: Yes, I am comparing 4E to previous versions of D&D. I believe that since D&D 4E has the "D&D" brand name all over it, it makes very good sense to do so. The publishers are using the D&D brand name to associate 4E with previous editions of the D&D game that many potential customers know and love. They are, in effect, setting our expectations that this new game will resonant with fans of the existing D&D game. I believe there is a spectrum of [i]form[/i] versus [i]function[/i]. At the [i]form[/i] extreme of the spectrum would be a perfect game [i]environment[/i] without a game system. Everything about it would be described in beautiful, evocative detail, but it wouldn't be much of a game because there would be no rules to govern interaction with it. At the [i]function[/i] extreme of the spectrum would be a perfect game [i]system[/i] without a game environment. It would be abstract and totally perfect, but not much of a game because while it would work perfectly, it wouldn't actually describe anything meaningful. It's my view that the best RPGs are those that are able to find just the right balance between form and function. Thanks again for your comments :) [/QUOTE]
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