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<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4279903" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>Well hopefully the new minions rules will mean that the edition war should be able to resolve itself much quicker than in the past.</p><p></p><p>I like some of the mechanics changes - rituals, combining skills, etc. Most of the changes are ones that I can't quite figure out how they'll affect my game yet. For example, there are things like salamanders being 14th level monsters that I'm not sure about. I thought 14th level was "paragon"? Are they saying that salamanders are the kind of foe that only the paragons of humanity (or tiefling-aty or whatever) can fight against? Not quite what I thought of when I think of a salamander. So while I find the division of things into tiers to be an interesting concept, the actual game elements that were assigned to the various tiers seem almost completely arbitrary.</p><p></p><p>Then again, platinum is worth 100 times as much as gold for reasons I can't quite figure either. Somehow, while the game designers were vaguely aware of the craziness of adventurers being crushed under the weight of their treasure, the obvious solution to this did not present itself and so now we have astral diamonds instead. Since when is an adventurer being really really rich a cinematic concept anyway?</p><p></p><p>Action points are awarded for not boring the DM, as far as I can tell. As a DM, I like the precedent that this is setting. As a gamer, I'm not too sure. </p><p></p><p>Apparently, Points of Light is a nice way of greatly minimizing the amount of non-killable stuff in the game world. Tolkien would be pleased.</p><p></p><p>Somewhere in the rules there's a statement that your character can only sell mundane equipment if it's ok with the DM. What happens if my character walks up to an NPC and says "I'll give you this sword for 5 gp"? Does the NPC just ignore him and slink away? Do I get an out-of-game lecture from the DM on the evils of capitalism? The rules didn't particularly elaborate and I'm wondering how they expected DMs to handle this.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 4279903, member: 30001"] Well hopefully the new minions rules will mean that the edition war should be able to resolve itself much quicker than in the past. I like some of the mechanics changes - rituals, combining skills, etc. Most of the changes are ones that I can't quite figure out how they'll affect my game yet. For example, there are things like salamanders being 14th level monsters that I'm not sure about. I thought 14th level was "paragon"? Are they saying that salamanders are the kind of foe that only the paragons of humanity (or tiefling-aty or whatever) can fight against? Not quite what I thought of when I think of a salamander. So while I find the division of things into tiers to be an interesting concept, the actual game elements that were assigned to the various tiers seem almost completely arbitrary. Then again, platinum is worth 100 times as much as gold for reasons I can't quite figure either. Somehow, while the game designers were vaguely aware of the craziness of adventurers being crushed under the weight of their treasure, the obvious solution to this did not present itself and so now we have astral diamonds instead. Since when is an adventurer being really really rich a cinematic concept anyway? Action points are awarded for not boring the DM, as far as I can tell. As a DM, I like the precedent that this is setting. As a gamer, I'm not too sure. Apparently, Points of Light is a nice way of greatly minimizing the amount of non-killable stuff in the game world. Tolkien would be pleased. Somewhere in the rules there's a statement that your character can only sell mundane equipment if it's ok with the DM. What happens if my character walks up to an NPC and says "I'll give you this sword for 5 gp"? Does the NPC just ignore him and slink away? Do I get an out-of-game lecture from the DM on the evils of capitalism? The rules didn't particularly elaborate and I'm wondering how they expected DMs to handle this. [/QUOTE]
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