Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What is wrong with 4E?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="gizmo33" data-source="post: 4280377" data-attributes="member: 30001"><p>I have no idea where you get the notion that I'm advocating zero interaction with the DM. IME at some point, the DM abstracts situations involving a lot of repetition. For example, in order to walk from point A to point B, a player doesn't have to "interact" with the DM 47,000 times each time his character puts one foot in front of the other.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, if I'm going to ask a city of people if they want to buy a longsword I don't actually have to roleplay that out. So a DM typically makes a blanket statement like "all 47,000 peasants are completely uninterested in buying your sword at any price" - which I'm pretty sure would be met with some interesting reactions from the people I play with. They're not used to the "you can't pick up that rock because it's just a part of the background graphics of the game and not really there" sort of logic. And IMO a DM would only add insult to injury by trying to make up an explanation. No explanation as to why a PC can't sell rope at the mouth of the Pit of Doom is probably necessary - but that's not what the rules are talking about IIRC. (But yet no real statement against PCs *buying* rope at the same location. Hmmm...)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="gizmo33, post: 4280377, member: 30001"] I have no idea where you get the notion that I'm advocating zero interaction with the DM. IME at some point, the DM abstracts situations involving a lot of repetition. For example, in order to walk from point A to point B, a player doesn't have to "interact" with the DM 47,000 times each time his character puts one foot in front of the other. Similarly, if I'm going to ask a city of people if they want to buy a longsword I don't actually have to roleplay that out. So a DM typically makes a blanket statement like "all 47,000 peasants are completely uninterested in buying your sword at any price" - which I'm pretty sure would be met with some interesting reactions from the people I play with. They're not used to the "you can't pick up that rock because it's just a part of the background graphics of the game and not really there" sort of logic. And IMO a DM would only add insult to injury by trying to make up an explanation. No explanation as to why a PC can't sell rope at the mouth of the Pit of Doom is probably necessary - but that's not what the rules are talking about IIRC. (But yet no real statement against PCs *buying* rope at the same location. Hmmm...) [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*TTRPGs General
What is wrong with 4E?
Top