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<blockquote data-quote="Intense_Interest" data-source="post: 4283476" data-attributes="member: 65904"><p>Way to snipe-quote there.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>8th Level Dwarf Fighter with Arcane Initiate (representing a better genre convention than "looking over his shoulder) selecting Thunderwave and Acolyte Power swapping a lvl 2 for Feather Fall.</p><p></p><p>He is a member of a military Dwarf group called "Moradin's Thunder". He and other members are organized into squads called "Tons" that have the same type of abilities.</p><p></p><p>They are loaded into one of the many catapult/trechubet and launched into an approaching army, using Feather Fall to land safely. 5 Dwarf soldiers landing into the middle of an army's column per round per artillery.</p><p></p><p>Is that Gimped, or Awesome?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not arguing this. Except that Mashups are supposed to be actual base classes now.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Jack of All Trades, Master of None is either A- a base class B- broken to the point of scrapping the comparative power of challenges.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Really? You can't restart the character and call him Tom the Monk instead of Tom the Thug? </p><p></p><p>I'm not seeing the issue:</p><p></p><p>1- start him back at the beginning; used for complete overhauls of personality</p><p>2- Dabble, reconfig to Base class with a Counter-dabble, then reconfig to Base if it is a complete change.</p><p></p><p>But you're right in that there is a third pillar to old Multiclassing, except it wasn't really multiclassing as much as "Starting a new character".</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Intense_Interest, post: 4283476, member: 65904"] Way to snipe-quote there. 8th Level Dwarf Fighter with Arcane Initiate (representing a better genre convention than "looking over his shoulder) selecting Thunderwave and Acolyte Power swapping a lvl 2 for Feather Fall. He is a member of a military Dwarf group called "Moradin's Thunder". He and other members are organized into squads called "Tons" that have the same type of abilities. They are loaded into one of the many catapult/trechubet and launched into an approaching army, using Feather Fall to land safely. 5 Dwarf soldiers landing into the middle of an army's column per round per artillery. Is that Gimped, or Awesome? I'm not arguing this. Except that Mashups are supposed to be actual base classes now. Jack of All Trades, Master of None is either A- a base class B- broken to the point of scrapping the comparative power of challenges. Really? You can't restart the character and call him Tom the Monk instead of Tom the Thug? I'm not seeing the issue: 1- start him back at the beginning; used for complete overhauls of personality 2- Dabble, reconfig to Base class with a Counter-dabble, then reconfig to Base if it is a complete change. But you're right in that there is a third pillar to old Multiclassing, except it wasn't really multiclassing as much as "Starting a new character". [/QUOTE]
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