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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 4283563" data-attributes="member: 2198"><p>3e doesn't support life-changing career changes, either, unless your new career just happens to synergize with your old one. Sure, you can abandon being a fighter and start advancing as a wizard, but there are a couple of problems. You're level F+1, need a corresponding amount of XP to level up, you're facing CR > F+1 threats, and you have all the amazing combat power of a 1st level wizard. And can't cast your useless spells in armor without a heavy failure %. Not that you'd be wearing armor, since you gave up being a fighter and all. In some kind of solo game it doesn't matter since the DM is tailoring threats just for you to face, but in a group situation, which is to say the normal situation, the group generally wants each member to pull their own weight.</p><p></p><p>It looks nice on paper, doesn't work so well in practice outside of the effective class combos (mixing non-monk martial classes, generally).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 4283563, member: 2198"] 3e doesn't support life-changing career changes, either, unless your new career just happens to synergize with your old one. Sure, you can abandon being a fighter and start advancing as a wizard, but there are a couple of problems. You're level F+1, need a corresponding amount of XP to level up, you're facing CR > F+1 threats, and you have all the amazing combat power of a 1st level wizard. And can't cast your useless spells in armor without a heavy failure %. Not that you'd be wearing armor, since you gave up being a fighter and all. In some kind of solo game it doesn't matter since the DM is tailoring threats just for you to face, but in a group situation, which is to say the normal situation, the group generally wants each member to pull their own weight. It looks nice on paper, doesn't work so well in practice outside of the effective class combos (mixing non-monk martial classes, generally). [/QUOTE]
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