what is your unarmored AC?

[Sodalis]

i have a player in my campaign that is playin a monk duelist (with a couple of other classes) and was wondering what is the highest her AC can be?

Given that she has above normal stats (16) per stat- int, wis, dex, what is the highest it can be?

I don't have sword and fist so can't check out her story of her AC being 35 (with a whopping 32 for touch).
I am not trying to screw the player or anything- just wanted to verify that everything is on the up and up without coming out and saying "I don't believe you..."

thanks

 

[Someguy]

What magic tiems does she have, and what level is she with both levels? What other classes does she have?

She must be high level, inorder to qualify for this, and the feat requiemnerts must be real crutch against her power over all, however...

 

[Sodalis]

sorry- shudda gave you more info to work on...


I don't really know what the exacts are- having only looked over the stat sheet once- and at first glance- everythign checked out-

lvl 15 altogether-

I would think 6 duelist, 9 monk (or maybe a couple of fighters for feats)- sorry I can't be more help.

But i was just wondering if this was possible- having a unarmored AC of 35?

I remember him saying, 4 from dex, 4 from wis, 3 from int (buffed from magic items), 3 from off hand parry

thats all i remember- so right there it is a 24...

 

[Berandor]

could be +1 for dodge, +5 for expertise, perhaps some bracers of armor?

Berandor

 

[Henry]

Is it just me, or didn't we have a similar thread about this last month?

if he has a 16 in INT, WIS, and DEX, as you say, then those are +3's, not +4's, first of all.

Having a Monk 6 / Duelist 9, and an 16 DEX, WIS, INT, you could have +3 (DEX) +3 (WIS, Monk) +3 (INT, Duelist), +5 from Expertise (with a -5 to Attacks, don't forget), +2 (Defensive fighting, -4 to attacks, don't forget), +1 (dodge feat)

= AC 27.

Second of all, are you the DM of the group?

If not, you have no right to know what the PC's Armor Class is anyway.

If so, you have EVERY RIGHT to ANY AND ALL CHARACTER INFORMATION on that player's sheet. It's not a matter of friendship and trust - it's a matter of playing by the rules established by all players. Many PC's abound with instances of accidental stacking errors, adding bonuses at all times where there shouldn't be (such as fighting defensively being included at all times), etc.

Many DM's require copies of all players' character sheets - why don't you start doing this? Pass out a dime to each player if they are too poor to afford going to a copy machine at a library.

It is far above the matter of trust and honest if a player does not want you to look at their PC's information - and in fact ridiculous to suggest that a DM wouldn't be allowed to see the sheet in the first place.

Good luck.

 

[Someguy]

unless she was using a buckler, which she can't unless she wants to lose the monk bonuses, the offhand parry will be two.

Also, when fighting unarmed, you aren't fighting with "two weapons", same with a monk weapon that allows you to use there BAB unarmed progression. She would ahve to sue another, non monk weapn, so even if she has a high ac, she still loses the bonuses...so she would be really bad at attacking.

Also, unless she had taken fighter levels, she would have to be minum of 8th level monk

 

[Sodalis]

It's not a matter of friendship and "can i look at your stat sheet..."

It's a matter of my not being able to verify any of the AC bonuses cause I don't have S&F. Basically, he can throw in as many bonuses as he wants and I can't say No- unless i want to be a mean DM.

I am not saying taht i don't trust him, its just that it seem s abit odd that a character can have such a defense and at the same time be fairly good at attacking (which she is)

so i have a couple things to cehck for:
buckler, weapon type, bracers, stats (magic items), monk progression and attacks...

thanks

 

[Umbran]

It's a matter of my not being able to verify any of the AC bonuses cause I don't have S&F. Basically, he can throw in as many bonuses as he wants and I can't say No- unless i want to be a mean DM.

It is not mean for the DM to require that he know all about the character's abilities beforehand. In fact, it would be rather foolish for you to allow a character that uses rules with which you are unfamiliar. S&F is an optional book. That means that nothing in it exists until the DM specifically says so. The player cannot throw on bonuses unless you say it's okay.

If the player in question wants this character, have them hand over a copy of S&F for you to review.

 

[SableWyvern]

I'm with Umbran. I may allow a player to make a character using material I don't have, but it would be under the proviso that the character will not be ratified until I have had an opportunity to peruse the material in question.

If a player in one of my campaigns took it upon themselves to use material I didn't have, at the very least they would come to me first to discuss the various optional rules that they wanted to make use of.

 

[Sodalis]

The thing was that we are rotating DMs and he was the Dm up til last week. During his reign, he allowed the use of only the core books and the 5 supplements. I bought OA and FR, but he said they will not be used, unless cleared with him first.

The duelist was a carry over from last campaign. She was hired because we are undermanned (sorc, clr and rog) so we needed the extra man in front. Since he made it- and he was DMing, I had no problem with it.

But now that I am the DM, i am having trouble seeing how a character can have such a high defense and also offense...

So, I have emailed the player, and told himt o send me a copy of the char sheet. I will make a note of whatever I see that is odd, and either willpost again (hope you dont mind) or just wait til next game (thur) and look over the book before the game...

thanks a bunch