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Message: <blockquote data-quote="LordEntrails" data-source="post: 7554740" data-attributes="member: 6804070">And I don't see you getting my point either. Seems time to move on.Yes it is metagaming. Something I can't image any RPG player that has a good memory and has played for years probably can avoid. Metgaming is not an evil word or act, not when it is done because of experience. As for your suggestion, I already said I do those types of things. But, after a round of combat or two, people learn, "Oh, Tom rolled a 15 and missed, I rolled a 17 and hit. I guess the AC is 16 or 17." I don't have a problem with my players being intelligent. But really, lets not debate that.As for the value of initiative at my table... yea, you are overvaluing it not us. This is a thread on initiative options, hence why its the focus of my comments. Understand how much time and effort has gone into using re-roll initiative at our table; two button clicks and a couple of milliseconds at the start of every round. Either you missed the part about us using Fantasy Grounds or you don't understand how easy and powerful it is. All I did to set this up was click on the 'options' icon and then toggle re-roll init. FG then re-rolls initiative following the last person's turn on the combat tracker automatically and re-orders the combat tracker faster than we can see.So yea, two clicks once per campaign and a few milliseconds per round are an acceptable value for the benefits we get.</blockquote>