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<blockquote data-quote="Veltharis ap Rylix" data-source="post: 9354327" data-attributes="member: 66357"><p>How about this then:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">"Half-elves" in original 5e had Darkvision and Fey Ancestry, which I think we can agree are biological enough to survive the shift to floating ASI and skill/item proficiencies to the character background, as well as Skill Versatility, which is a bit vaguer, but suggests a level of innate adaptability (and parallels the revised 5e human we'll get to in a bit). Not much, to be sure, but it's something. Alternatively, per SCAG, I could swap out Skill Versatility for a limited portion of the their elven heritage's subtype choice.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Original 5e elves had both Darkvision and Fey Ancestry, plus Trance, Keen Senses, and their elven subtype, which throws in a number of different traits, from innate spells and cantrips, to upgraded darkvision, to faster movement and stealth capabilities, and so on.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Original 5e humans had basically nothing "biological" of note.</li> </ul><p>Based on the species UA for the '24 5e revision:</p><ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Humans are getting Resourceful (inspiration on long rest), Skillful (free skill proficiency), and Versatile (free 1st-level feat).</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Elves are having certain aspects of their traits shifted around and getting more innate spellcasting, but is otherwise remaining largely the same.</li> </ul><p>If I play a Khoravar using human mechanics in the '24 5e revision (and treating Skillful as more or less equivalent to Skill Versatility for the purposes of this discussion), I gain Resourceful and Versatile but lose Fey Ancestry and Darkvision. The only things that gave the character a connection to elven lineage are removed.</p><p></p><p>If I play a Khoravar using elf mechanics instead, I lose Skillful, but gain Trance, Keen Senses, and an Elven subtype (along with everything that entails), which exchanges their connection to human ancestry for literally everything that makes an elf an elf, doubling and tripling down on their fey and magical heritage at the expense of the mundane.</p><p></p><p>I want something in the middle. Something in the realm of Skillful, Fey Ancestry, and Darkvision, plus or minus whatever else is needed to bring it in line with current design regarding species power level (probably adding Resourceful, to make it an even two traits from each parent ancestry). I want a Khoravar that can be a little bit mundane and human, while retaining a little bit of their elven fey nature.</p><p></p><p>With "pick-a-parent", it's all or nothing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Veltharis ap Rylix, post: 9354327, member: 66357"] How about this then: [LIST] [*]"Half-elves" in original 5e had Darkvision and Fey Ancestry, which I think we can agree are biological enough to survive the shift to floating ASI and skill/item proficiencies to the character background, as well as Skill Versatility, which is a bit vaguer, but suggests a level of innate adaptability (and parallels the revised 5e human we'll get to in a bit). Not much, to be sure, but it's something. Alternatively, per SCAG, I could swap out Skill Versatility for a limited portion of the their elven heritage's subtype choice. [*]Original 5e elves had both Darkvision and Fey Ancestry, plus Trance, Keen Senses, and their elven subtype, which throws in a number of different traits, from innate spells and cantrips, to upgraded darkvision, to faster movement and stealth capabilities, and so on. [*]Original 5e humans had basically nothing "biological" of note. [/LIST] Based on the species UA for the '24 5e revision: [LIST] [*]Humans are getting Resourceful (inspiration on long rest), Skillful (free skill proficiency), and Versatile (free 1st-level feat). [*]Elves are having certain aspects of their traits shifted around and getting more innate spellcasting, but is otherwise remaining largely the same. [/LIST] If I play a Khoravar using human mechanics in the '24 5e revision (and treating Skillful as more or less equivalent to Skill Versatility for the purposes of this discussion), I gain Resourceful and Versatile but lose Fey Ancestry and Darkvision. The only things that gave the character a connection to elven lineage are removed. If I play a Khoravar using elf mechanics instead, I lose Skillful, but gain Trance, Keen Senses, and an Elven subtype (along with everything that entails), which exchanges their connection to human ancestry for literally everything that makes an elf an elf, doubling and tripling down on their fey and magical heritage at the expense of the mundane. I want something in the middle. Something in the realm of Skillful, Fey Ancestry, and Darkvision, plus or minus whatever else is needed to bring it in line with current design regarding species power level (probably adding Resourceful, to make it an even two traits from each parent ancestry). I want a Khoravar that can be a little bit mundane and human, while retaining a little bit of their elven fey nature. With "pick-a-parent", it's all or nothing. [/QUOTE]
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