What kind of Sales can you expect from PDF?

[tensen]

Interestingly, Phil Read says he's sold 170 copies of 101 Spellbooks, but it's not on the list. That means either the list is screwy (which I have suspected in the past) or that he's sellng a lot of copies in places other than RPGNow.

I imagine the list is a little screwy.
Then there are combined sales to figure into account.
And issues such as our Moon Elves, which had reasonable sales.. and then we dropped that count when it switched under the Nautral 20 Press banner... which means its currently only accounting for about 3/4 of its sales... and somehow every once and a while gets a sale applied to the old product ID number.

 

[jmucchiello]

Aww, what the hell - here are some figures.

Don't you feel better now.

Interestingly, Phil Read says he's sold 170 copies of 101 Spellbooks, but it's not on the list. That means either the list is screwy (which I have suspected in the past) or that he's sellng a lot of copies in places other than RPGNow.

He does sell through paypal on his website.

Joe
Holding steady at 125

Edit: can't spell

 

[HellHound]

Alright Russ' - time to show our hands eh?

#6 = 528 sales = Librum Equitis volume 1
#13 = 329 sales = Thee Compleat Librum ov Gar'Udok's Necromantic Artes
#19 = 232 sales = Librum Equitis volume 2

and not ranked...

149 sales = Everyone Else
4,779 = Portable Hole Full of Beer

So yes, we are stuck in a limbo of "not quite good enough sales" to make it to the top 30.

As for the #5 & #6 slots, I've been trading back and forth with Inns and Taverns floorplans for the #5 slot, so they are probably holding it by less than a five copy margin right now. So we have figures on #2, 4, 5, 6, 10, 13, 19. I'm sure we can strong arm Tensen into giving up the #9 sales slot data too.

 

[tensen]

I believe #9 was slightly over 450 sales the last I checked.

 

[Morrus]

Cool! So the list at present is (I'll ignore free stuff):

2: 730 (TF&T)
4: 578 (Wild Spellcraft)
5: ~530 (Inns & Taverns)
6: 528 (LE1)
9: 450 (CG1)
10: 381 (4C2F)
13: 329 (Gar'Udok)
19: 232 (LE2)
26: 160 (Enchiridon)

Below #30:

160-170?: 101 Spellbooks
152: Moon Elves (+55 or so lost figures...grrr...)
149: Everyone Else
146: Drow (+6 Print On Demand not counted)
140: 101 Treasures
125: Enchantment
121: Death: GotG

Have I missed any? I'd really like to know what #30 is at exactly - hopefully Privateer will be kind enough to share that info.

I might have to start gathering lots of info for a short PDFer's FAQ which answers all those questions which appear here on a seemingly weekly basis.

 

[HellHound]

149 Everyone Else, not 129, but that's not here nor there since it hasn't broken into the top 30 yet.

 

[Morrus]

149 Everyone Else, not 129, but that's not here nor there since it hasn't broken into the top 30 yet.

I edited it anyway. This info is useful for people who want to know how far off the bottom of the list they are. I much preferred the Top 40 to that silly Weekly Sales thing.

 

[HellHound]

I like the weekly sales top 10.

Right now, the new products are coming out so fast that a product gets pushed off the "New This Month" listing within 2 weeks of release. But good sales of a product keep it visible through the week's top 10 list.

 

[tensen]

Actually I pushed for the Top 10 weekly sales.
Although I did also push for longer lists in each of the categories. So if you go into the d20 Fantasy list you can sort of judge how far off the main list you are.

 

[jmucchiello]

I like the weekly sales top 10.

Right now, the new products are coming out so fast that a product gets pushed off the "New This Month" listing within 2 weeks of release. But good sales of a product keep it visible through the week's top 10 list.

Yeah, but about 8 sales in a 7 day period will get you anywhere from 4th to 8th place depending on the age of the other releases that are currently "hot". It's really a what's hot list. The placement order fluctuates too much. If it was "Top 10 sales for Nov 3 - Nov 9", and there were archives, it might be more meaningful.

Joe