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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 7037866" data-source="post: 9356556">It depends on the players and classes, but likely tier 4. 9th-level spells can be real game breakers IMO. For example, invulnerability is a prime example, a caster completely immune to all damage for 100 rounds! A Wizard (18)/ Warlock (2) can defeat an ancient red dragon single-handed if it doesn't flee and then return to fight after the invulnerability spell expires.The important thing is for the Great Wyrm to control the battlefield and recognizing fleeing might be necessary, especially to return to confront the PCs on its own terms.Also throwing a curve at the group is a great way to make the adventure and challenge more difficult.I have an old adventure I wrote for AD&D made for 21-24th level PCs, it took more than six sessions, but was a lot of fun for the players, with a couple twists and turns tossed in to keep them on their toes. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>