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<blockquote data-quote="Oofta" data-source="post: 9358224" data-attributes="member: 6801845"><p>One thing on lair design. Go big. This is a gargantuan dragon, it is not going to be squeezing into a cubby hole. The largest natural cavern <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_S%C6%A1n_%C4%90o%C3%B2ng#:~:text=S%C6%A1n%20%C4%90o%C3%B2ng%20cave%20(Vietnamese%3A%20hang,the%20world%27s%20largest%20natural%20cave." target="_blank">Hang Son Doong</a> is 500 feet wide and 600 feet tall. I've been in Carlsbad Cavern, the biggest in the US and it's 4,000 feet long 625 feet wide and 255 feet tall. If natural caves can get that big, a dragon that has had hundreds of years to shape their fortress could have multiple huge interconnected chambers.</p><p></p><p>I don't have A5E so I can't speak to their elite dragon, but I can say that I would run this dragon with hit-and-run tactics playing cat and mouse with the group. Use lair actions to split the party, have massive tunnels in the ceiling that it could fly through to attack from unexpected directions and so on.</p><p></p><p>Last time I did this though I added several levels of sorcerer and beefed up it's lair actions (and gave him 2 per round) just so I could play other games and make the dragon more interesting. Sadly, the PCs decided to negotiate since they did have a common enemy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f622.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":cry:" title="Crying :cry:" data-smilie="15"data-shortname=":cry:" /> One of these years that dragon will probably be a main antagonist for a new campaign.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Oofta, post: 9358224, member: 6801845"] One thing on lair design. Go big. This is a gargantuan dragon, it is not going to be squeezing into a cubby hole. The largest natural cavern [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hang_S%C6%A1n_%C4%90o%C3%B2ng#:~:text=S%C6%A1n%20%C4%90o%C3%B2ng%20cave%20(Vietnamese%3A%20hang,the%20world%27s%20largest%20natural%20cave.']Hang Son Doong[/URL] is 500 feet wide and 600 feet tall. I've been in Carlsbad Cavern, the biggest in the US and it's 4,000 feet long 625 feet wide and 255 feet tall. If natural caves can get that big, a dragon that has had hundreds of years to shape their fortress could have multiple huge interconnected chambers. I don't have A5E so I can't speak to their elite dragon, but I can say that I would run this dragon with hit-and-run tactics playing cat and mouse with the group. Use lair actions to split the party, have massive tunnels in the ceiling that it could fly through to attack from unexpected directions and so on. Last time I did this though I added several levels of sorcerer and beefed up it's lair actions (and gave him 2 per round) just so I could play other games and make the dragon more interesting. Sadly, the PCs decided to negotiate since they did have a common enemy. :cry: One of these years that dragon will probably be a main antagonist for a new campaign. [/QUOTE]
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