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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Fluxx" data-source="post: 5260159" data-attributes="member: 82639">I think having a controller role is a good idea but they should have done it right.- The role needs something only they can do - again I mention the Wizzard Utility 2 'Mystical Debris' - this should have been a role-featuer like the '... word' is for leader. Each class can have its own variation - unpassable squares, squares which give conditions if you anter them, squares which pull/push enemies in a defined radius,...- Giving out good classfeatures. Good examples are** Orb-wizzard: perhaps a bit strong but a good controll-feature - everey class can dish out conditions but the conditions from a controller really heart** Bloodbond-Seeker: perhaps a bit weak but push + slow is good controll** Preservation-Invoker: Making sure you can place your area attacks at good places strengthens the controll (ignore the channel divinity for this example as it is not much about controll)** Malediction-Invoker: forced movement to enemies is straight controll. (ok one square is perhaps a bit weak but therefor the malediction invoker has a controllery channel divinity)In addition controllers should have very low damage but they should have the really ugly conditions a few levels earlier than other roles (why does a rogue as a striker need area blind at lvl 1?)You want to make a martial controller? I suppose melee, but not a defender without mark!?Firts thing is he should be able to react very flexible and act wherever he is needed. So - take the monk for its movementmodes (or give him one good movementmode as classfeature and others per feat/utility)- take the centered breath class feature but without the damage part - just the forced movement- take away the unarmored defense but give him the shadow walk feature from the warlock - so he wants to be mobile and move around- give him a ability to make an adjacent square damaging/difficult terrain either as minor action or free 1/round- give him some good opportunity attacks - slow/stop movement/knock pronecombined with some controllery powers he will do his job fine. He is melee but he is neither a defender nor a striker but better in controll than all strikers or defenders.</blockquote>

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