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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jaeger" data-source="post: 8639223" data-attributes="member: 27996">Harry Potter* aside, If you look at the Fantasy that has broken out into the mainstream, you have: Lord of the Rings, Game of Thrones, Conan, and The Witcher.All three taken individually, or heck, even combined are far and away more "low-magic", and less fantastical, than Forgotten Realms ever was. Or core book baseline D&D for that matter.You don't have to throw in the kitchen sink to make a fantasy setting compelling, and adventure worthy.*Kids fare will naturally be more whimsical by default.^This^ And I don't think a E6 or even E3 play model would be that hard of a deviation.And, he did say:I see some wiggle room there!I'll go further and say that  making d20/5e based games around an E6, or even a E3, flat HP paradigm is a big unexplored design space for d20 games that even the OSR has yet to dive into.5e's 'Bounded Accuracy' based math would be a good base for this. And the Dark Souls RPG, even though a bit DOA, did show that there is enthusiasm for a 5e variant that is willing to redesign itself around a different paradigm of play. A E3 fix HP fantasy game would play out very differently over time than the current HP to 20 levels 5e model.If WotC does a Gamma World or Star Frontiers style game;  A fixed HP model should be embraced.Which of course means that neither will ever happen. I just cannot see WotC doing a5e based game that doesn't work exactly the same way as their D&D offering.Another poster here listed opined how all current alternate D&D settings serve to drive corebook sales. All the settings they offer always have a clause that everything in the PHB is a-ok to play.  I wish I remembered who it was so I could quote it but the post is from a while back in an older thread. And I find myself in agreement with that assessment.I really doubt that WotC would even do a setting where Core PC classes are redesigned and flat out not allowed, let alone a ground up 5e based RPG. I really think that they don't want to clutter up their D&D 'lifestyle' branding.I think Star Frontiers and Gamma world should get a shot - but unless WotC is gonna take a real crack at what a custom 5e based game can do, and support the game line, then they are best left alone.And to be honest, given recent 5e offerings, I'd take my chances on some well known 'amateur' game designers having their hands on the reigns over the WotC 'professionals'...</blockquote>

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