Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What official material is considered problematic to the point where it is not balanced and presents a problem?
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6932146" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Most doors (especially in a dilapidated old dungeon) have a one-inch gap that can be Arcane Eye'd under.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I mean, one character exploring an entire dungeon by themselves is, at the very least, like 15-20 minutes of real-world yawn-time for the rest of the party to go grab a beer. It's also a useful "I have an entire map of this place now" spell, combined with an "I know the surface-level contents of every room" spell with a dash of "I know how many creatures and of what type are living here" spell. That's not every avenue for surprise shut down, but it's a <em>lot</em> of 'em. It should be a useful spell (a 5th level Divination spell ain't nothin'!), but that seemed like an outsized effect that also had a negative effect on the other players of the game.</p><p></p><p>But this shows that in addition to having diminishing returns, balance is also subjective - what is massive in one game might not be a big deal in another game. That's why you get massive threads about how broken/not broken certain mechanics are. Every game is empowered to decide for itself what it can allow unaltered and what it wants to change. Last game, <em>Arcane Eye</em> was one of those things we wanted to change. Next game, maybe it'll be the homebrew rogue class we're running with. As long as everyone at my table's happy, doesn't really matter what someone at some other table thinks is appropriately balanced or not. </p><p></p><p>Which is also why the core game gets no special gold star for balance. They're good rules, but they cannot be perfect at every table, and making rulings and ad hoc decisions on balance is part and parcel of playing the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6932146, member: 2067"] Most doors (especially in a dilapidated old dungeon) have a one-inch gap that can be Arcane Eye'd under. I mean, one character exploring an entire dungeon by themselves is, at the very least, like 15-20 minutes of real-world yawn-time for the rest of the party to go grab a beer. It's also a useful "I have an entire map of this place now" spell, combined with an "I know the surface-level contents of every room" spell with a dash of "I know how many creatures and of what type are living here" spell. That's not every avenue for surprise shut down, but it's a [I]lot[/I] of 'em. It should be a useful spell (a 5th level Divination spell ain't nothin'!), but that seemed like an outsized effect that also had a negative effect on the other players of the game. But this shows that in addition to having diminishing returns, balance is also subjective - what is massive in one game might not be a big deal in another game. That's why you get massive threads about how broken/not broken certain mechanics are. Every game is empowered to decide for itself what it can allow unaltered and what it wants to change. Last game, [I]Arcane Eye[/I] was one of those things we wanted to change. Next game, maybe it'll be the homebrew rogue class we're running with. As long as everyone at my table's happy, doesn't really matter what someone at some other table thinks is appropriately balanced or not. Which is also why the core game gets no special gold star for balance. They're good rules, but they cannot be perfect at every table, and making rulings and ad hoc decisions on balance is part and parcel of playing the game. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What official material is considered problematic to the point where it is not balanced and presents a problem?
Top