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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8639894" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I find it strange that people think 5e is easy.&nbsp; Like, yeah, you win most encounters, but if you're going to face the fabled 6-8 per diem, you're supposed to.I find 5e harder than 4e, and I died more than once in 4e. Three times, I think.&nbsp; And each time, no resurrection was possible.I've seen characters die in Adventurer's League twice now, and that's with rules for &quot;easy resurrections&quot;; and this was before ToA, which I didn't play in due to real life factors.My few tastes of Tier 3 play in AL, in fact, had us run up against some very unfair puzzles and traps.Now, can you punch above your weight class in 5e? Absolutely.&nbsp; This is the flipside of bounded accuracy that I never see discussed; yes, I can keep fighting goblins until Tier 3.&nbsp; I can also fight a CR 17 at level 10 and win.It's the number and frequency of the difficult encounters, and the resources I'm forced to use that determine difficulty, if the encounters are fair.But who can say what a fair encounter is?&nbsp; That's group dependent, and Challenge Rating is, and has always been a terrible metric for determining what players can face.Just look up &quot;That Damn Crab&quot; sometime, to see a classic misstep in action.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8639894, member: 6877472"] I find it strange that people think 5e is easy. Like, yeah, you win most encounters, but if you're going to face the fabled 6-8 per diem, you're supposed to. I find 5e harder than 4e, and I died more than once in 4e. Three times, I think. And each time, no resurrection was possible. I've seen characters die in Adventurer's League twice now, and that's with rules for "easy resurrections"; and this was before ToA, which I didn't play in due to real life factors. My few tastes of Tier 3 play in AL, in fact, had us run up against some very unfair puzzles and traps. Now, can you punch above your weight class in 5e? Absolutely. This is the flipside of bounded accuracy that I never see discussed; yes, I can keep fighting goblins until Tier 3. I can also fight a CR 17 at level 10 and win. It's the number and frequency of the difficult encounters, and the resources I'm forced to use that determine difficulty, if the encounters are fair. But who can say what a fair encounter is? That's group dependent, and Challenge Rating is, and has always been a terrible metric for determining what players can face. Just look up "That Damn Crab" sometime, to see a classic misstep in action. [/QUOTE]

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