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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Reynard" data-source="post: 8640794" data-attributes="member: 467">You're assuming this would result in a roll at all. I don't think that is necessarily the case. Obviously this is a hypothetical without a lot of context, but I imagine it working out in one of two ways:a) The minions are fanatically loyal, in which case there is no roll needed because there is no chance of success.or2) The GM decides the minions do in fact not want to die and don't particularly like their boss, so they let the PCs pass. They may or may not jump them after, depending on how beat up the PCs look after the boss fight, though.I don't think I would leave such a thing up to chance, instead of looking at the situation and the NPCs involved and making a GM call. But then, I HATE the "persuasion as mind control" mentality that a lot of people seem to have.</blockquote>