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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JiffyPopTart" data-source="post: 8641164" data-attributes="member: 4881">All of this, and to say a second time you can fail forward with skill checks in a way that you usually can't with attack rolls.Getting a 17 vs DC20 roll to open a lock....you can succeed on opening it but you will lose that set of picks getting there.  Fair for the player and the GM.Getting a 17 vs DC20 to hit a golem...you can succeed at damaging it, but your sword will shatter in the process.  Not as fair.Getting a 17 vs DC20 to convince the guard to let you go....he says if you give him 30 pieces of silver he is willing to look the other way.  Fair for the ayer and the GM.</blockquote>