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<blockquote data-quote="der_kluge" data-source="post: 2239677" data-attributes="member: 945">I thought of a new rule (or concept) in d20 that really irks me.The idea that I can pick up one class and automatically gain all those class benefits.For example, I playa cloistered cleric. Cloistered clerics are a rule variant in Unearthed Arcana. They get d6 HD, 6 skill points per level, a wizard BAB, bardic lore, and a bonus domain. They also can use simple weapons, and wear light armor.On the surface it sounds like a good class, and I really do like the class. But consider this: I could take 1 level of regular cleric, not lose any spellcasting benefits, and immediately gain heavy armor proficiency.&nbsp; Then I could legitimately walk around in full plate armor as a cloistered cleric.I hear all the time about people &quot;cherry-picking&quot; classes to gain different sorts of abilities.&nbsp; The very idea of an ability belonging to a class is an odd concept. In fact, the very idea of a classes is a bit odd, but that's a sacred cow best left untouched, I understand that.Still, it's kind of broken the way it's currently done.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="der_kluge, post: 2239677, member: 945"] I thought of a new rule (or concept) in d20 that really irks me. The idea that I can pick up one class and automatically gain all those class benefits. For example, I playa cloistered cleric. Cloistered clerics are a rule variant in Unearthed Arcana. They get d6 HD, 6 skill points per level, a wizard BAB, bardic lore, and a bonus domain. They also can use simple weapons, and wear light armor. On the surface it sounds like a good class, and I really do like the class. But consider this: I could take 1 level of regular cleric, not lose any spellcasting benefits, and immediately gain heavy armor proficiency. Then I could legitimately walk around in full plate armor as a cloistered cleric. I hear all the time about people "cherry-picking" classes to gain different sorts of abilities. The very idea of an ability belonging to a class is an odd concept. In fact, the very idea of a classes is a bit odd, but that's a sacred cow best left untouched, I understand that. Still, it's kind of broken the way it's currently done. [/QUOTE]

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