What should the default setting be for 4th edition?
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Mycanid
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I have been listening to the Trilogy (unabridged form read by one guy) and I was once again overwhelmed by the description of the fellowship when they were on the outskirts of Lorien. That git me to thinking how ... err ... ::different:: JRRT tried to present the elves.
Middle Earth is a nice idea for a setting, but when I tried it way back in the day with the I.C.E. ruleset I somehow had difficulty getting into the game itself ... "suspending the disbelief", so to say.
But I must admit that I do like the idea for a "re-breathing" and return of the races of DnD with the image of them presented by JRRT. I am all for playing them more along the lines as he envisaged them ... of course this is partly because that is how I play them myself.
I prefer the elven race as my race of choice when I game and try to live up to how they were presented in the trilogy and the post-mortem books published of his writings. That and how Tad Williams presented the Sithi (as a decidedly secondary source, of course, but important) form the reference for me.
ANYway ... sorry to go so OT ... guess I was thinking out loud in relation to the suggestion about Middle Earth.
Middle Earth is a nice idea for a setting, but when I tried it way back in the day with the I.C.E. ruleset I somehow had difficulty getting into the game itself ... "suspending the disbelief", so to say.
But I must admit that I do like the idea for a "re-breathing" and return of the races of DnD with the image of them presented by JRRT. I am all for playing them more along the lines as he envisaged them ... of course this is partly because that is how I play them myself.
I prefer the elven race as my race of choice when I game and try to live up to how they were presented in the trilogy and the post-mortem books published of his writings. That and how Tad Williams presented the Sithi (as a decidedly secondary source, of course, but important) form the reference for me.ANYway ... sorry to go so OT ... guess I was thinking out loud in relation to the suggestion about Middle Earth.
Gold Roger
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Greyhawk, simply because it's closest to the essence of D&D. D&D is D&D and does things its own way. I'd like it to stay to its roots and often called out mythology and not try to emulate something else.
Shemeska
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So long as the Great Wheel is retained as the assumed cosmology, and the basis for the descriptions of all the various outsider races/elementals/etc, I don't have a preference for what world on the prime material happens to be the assumed default there.
I'd say Greyhawk or undefined, with FR being impossible unless we use 4e to retcon their cosmology retcon. FR has lots of books yes, I like it yes, it's popular yes, but if we use it we might have to use its screwy cosmology which tries to be setting exclusive, and that's hardly beneficial to anyone using the material and branching out on their own.
I'd say Greyhawk or undefined, with FR being impossible unless we use 4e to retcon their cosmology retcon. FR has lots of books yes, I like it yes, it's popular yes, but if we use it we might have to use its screwy cosmology which tries to be setting exclusive, and that's hardly beneficial to anyone using the material and branching out on their own.
BiggusGeekus
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"My homebrew" is one of the top rated sellings out there. So I don't think there should be any implied setting. Let people create.
I voted no implied setting, under the assumption that it would keep everything the way they are now. I've really come to like Greyhawk recently (Thanks Erik Mona and Dungeon!), but its just too hard to take serious sometime with its absolutely ridiculous naming conventions.
I love Eberron, but even Keith has said it was meant to be a spin on the baseline D&D experience, rather than the baseline itself. I consider it an amazing setting personally, but I'm also freely willing to admit that Constructs as a PC Race (Sorry, Warforged != Robots, and I'm sick of the oversimplification that argument is spawned from, so you won't see me yielding on that any time soon), elemental powered trains, etc. al aren't for everyone and by in large won't sit well with the significant majority who come looking for the vanilla fantasy experience. Even if Eberron is designed with D&D rules and tropes in mind, its still a bit of a stretch for some.
I sometimes wonder just how many people you've actually turned off from Scarred Lands with your constant haranguing. I know I'm one of them.
I love Eberron, but even Keith has said it was meant to be a spin on the baseline D&D experience, rather than the baseline itself. I consider it an amazing setting personally, but I'm also freely willing to admit that Constructs as a PC Race (Sorry, Warforged != Robots, and I'm sick of the oversimplification that argument is spawned from, so you won't see me yielding on that any time soon), elemental powered trains, etc. al aren't for everyone and by in large won't sit well with the significant majority who come looking for the vanilla fantasy experience. Even if Eberron is designed with D&D rules and tropes in mind, its still a bit of a stretch for some.
Nightfall said:yes it's that time again....
Scarred Lands! I want a 4th edition Scarred Lands.
I sometimes wonder just how many people you've actually turned off from Scarred Lands with your constant haranguing. I know I'm one of them.
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