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What size (thickness) book are you hoping the PHB, DMG, and MM will be and how much fluff do you expect?
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<blockquote data-quote="ccooke" data-source="post: 6231078" data-attributes="member: 6695890"><p>Ideal for me would be:</p><p></p><p>1) The core trinity of PHB, DMG and MM. Everything in the playtest plus a couple more classes and races and quite a few more subclasses. Ideal would be at least five for each class.</p><p></p><p>2) A basic boxed-set with the core four classes and races baking in the simplest subclass for each class. Subclass-provided abilities should be clearly marked as such, with information that in advanced versions of the game there are alternate choices. No feats. Pregen characters, one for each class. Finally, a single page at the end with information on using these characters with the advanced game - the gist should be that the difference is you have more options, but basic-set characters will still as powerful. Not the full spellbook, but a good subset.</p><p></p><p>3) A line of adventures clearly distinguished into basic and advanced sets. Basic adventures could include one new subclass per the basic set of four classes, with pregen characters using those subclasses, plus a few spells (mostly taken from the PHB) that fit the adventure's theme. Advanced adventures should contain a set of four non-basic-set classes each, presented as per the basic set - one subclass, with a pregen character. Additional class notes should be in their own booklet. </p><p></p><p>This way, experienced gamers buy the core trinity. If they buy adventures, they can ignore or use the class booklet for a reference. New players, on the other hand, can gradually take on more and more options as they go on. They can keep playing the simplest version of the game if they prefer, but they'll also quickly gain a few options. They won't *need* to buy the core trinity, but once they've bought a few adventures they'll probably *want* to, if only to have all the material in one place. I'd figure a similar thing with backgrounds - adventures supply new ones, some from the PHB.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ccooke, post: 6231078, member: 6695890"] Ideal for me would be: 1) The core trinity of PHB, DMG and MM. Everything in the playtest plus a couple more classes and races and quite a few more subclasses. Ideal would be at least five for each class. 2) A basic boxed-set with the core four classes and races baking in the simplest subclass for each class. Subclass-provided abilities should be clearly marked as such, with information that in advanced versions of the game there are alternate choices. No feats. Pregen characters, one for each class. Finally, a single page at the end with information on using these characters with the advanced game - the gist should be that the difference is you have more options, but basic-set characters will still as powerful. Not the full spellbook, but a good subset. 3) A line of adventures clearly distinguished into basic and advanced sets. Basic adventures could include one new subclass per the basic set of four classes, with pregen characters using those subclasses, plus a few spells (mostly taken from the PHB) that fit the adventure's theme. Advanced adventures should contain a set of four non-basic-set classes each, presented as per the basic set - one subclass, with a pregen character. Additional class notes should be in their own booklet. This way, experienced gamers buy the core trinity. If they buy adventures, they can ignore or use the class booklet for a reference. New players, on the other hand, can gradually take on more and more options as they go on. They can keep playing the simplest version of the game if they prefer, but they'll also quickly gain a few options. They won't *need* to buy the core trinity, but once they've bought a few adventures they'll probably *want* to, if only to have all the material in one place. I'd figure a similar thing with backgrounds - adventures supply new ones, some from the PHB. [/QUOTE]
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