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Message: <blockquote data-quote="dave2008" data-source="post: 7838247" data-attributes="member: 83242">I understand that viewpoint, but it is not what I am going for.  I think your viewpoint, while completely reasonable and justified, is not what I am going for in my project.  There is no god of Matter.  In fact, things being a god of something is a mortal conception.  The gods themselves don't think of themselves this way.  They have Authority over a certain aspect of reality, but that is not the sum-total of what they are. Not really, but I get your point.  The response to my question is heavily dependent on a person's definition of what a 'god' is.  That was on purpose so I can get the most diverse feedback.  I didn't want to constrain responses with my definition of deities in the OP. No argument from me.  However, my approach is the myths about gods - are indeed myths.  Mortals surround themselves with myths and rumors about deities and most of these are false.  It is helpful to also remember that RL myths change over time and location.  Heck, RA was the one and only deity in Egypt for a brief time.  A similar thing happened with Zeus overtime as well.However, to go back to your Iliad example, when Aphrodite and Ares were on the battlefield that would have only been an aspect of the deity.  In fact, i am developing a mode of playing gods where you can intervene in the lives of mortals through your aspect.Actually, the way I am handling it is deities (demigods, lesser, intermediate, & greater gods) are a type of Immortal (not immortal).  Eventually I hope to have guidelines for other Immortals too, but I wanted to start with gods.  I think that is a reasonable thought and I do worry I am giving them to much (and it is feeling to complex for 5e as well).  However, this questions about the spells is really just flavor text for how a deity interacts with mortals.  These spells are irrelevant for anything above a demigod.   Mortals are not a challenge for gods (just like mortals are not threat to marvels Thor) the adventures will need to be more "epic."I</blockquote>

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