Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions, OSR, & D&D Variants
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Upgrade your account to a Community Supporter account and remove most of the site ads.
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What the warlord needs in 5e and how to make it happen.
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 7042462" data-attributes="member: 61026"><p>For my own purposes, I would leave out the INT-based or WIS-based or CHA-based poll options, and instead ask whether the poll respondents favor a set of features in the various Warden subclasses that would apply on a limited schedule (per rest, or when someone else spends a limited resource), and have those various subclasses differ on whether that feature was INT-based or WIS-based or CHA-based. That is, the Warden (or whatever we call it) might be STR-based, but the secondary ability score could vary by subclass. </p><p></p><p>I would add a lot more "Fluffed as" choices: </p><p>"Fluffed as <em>having a distinctive voice</em> that can be loud and sharp enough to be heard clearly through the din of battle" might be one. </p><p>"Fluffed as <em>being vigorous enough and spirited enough</em> that others view that Warden as being a hard-charger" might be another one. </p><p>"Fluffed as <em>being grating and caustic enough</em> that others view that Warden as being someone who has pronounced opinions that may have been developed through hard-won and valuable experience" might be a third.</p><p></p><p>Instead of attacks and grants a benefit as the <em>same action</em>, I would be more inclined to offer an option for the Warden to be able to "Grant a tactical buff as a bonus action when taking the Attack action." (This would clearly be limited to once per round, because a character can only take one bonus action per round.)</p><p></p><p><strong>Certainly not</strong> offering the same healing as a Cleric or the same fighting ability as a Fighter. That's trampling on toes. The Warden should be lesser than those classes at those signature abilities. </p><p></p><p><strong>Certainly</strong> "strictly non-magical," but that's so fundamental that it shouldn't even be in the poll at all, because it's not even a question: Without that feature, the result would not be the Warlord class that people have been asking for; and the player should just as well play a bard instead.</p><p></p><p>The "Support Healing" and "Action Swapping" poll questions are fine. </p><p></p><p>Temp HP granting is fine. Tactical buffs are fine. </p><p></p><p>Tactical debuffs are questionable, because that's more the Wizard's thing; but listing it in the poll could be an informative exercise.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tuxgeo, post: 7042462, member: 61026"] For my own purposes, I would leave out the INT-based or WIS-based or CHA-based poll options, and instead ask whether the poll respondents favor a set of features in the various Warden subclasses that would apply on a limited schedule (per rest, or when someone else spends a limited resource), and have those various subclasses differ on whether that feature was INT-based or WIS-based or CHA-based. That is, the Warden (or whatever we call it) might be STR-based, but the secondary ability score could vary by subclass. I would add a lot more "Fluffed as" choices: "Fluffed as [I]having a distinctive voice[/I] that can be loud and sharp enough to be heard clearly through the din of battle" might be one. "Fluffed as [I]being vigorous enough and spirited enough[/I] that others view that Warden as being a hard-charger" might be another one. "Fluffed as [I]being grating and caustic enough[/I] that others view that Warden as being someone who has pronounced opinions that may have been developed through hard-won and valuable experience" might be a third. Instead of attacks and grants a benefit as the [I]same action[/I], I would be more inclined to offer an option for the Warden to be able to "Grant a tactical buff as a bonus action when taking the Attack action." (This would clearly be limited to once per round, because a character can only take one bonus action per round.) [B]Certainly not[/B] offering the same healing as a Cleric or the same fighting ability as a Fighter. That's trampling on toes. The Warden should be lesser than those classes at those signature abilities. [B]Certainly[/B] "strictly non-magical," but that's so fundamental that it shouldn't even be in the poll at all, because it's not even a question: Without that feature, the result would not be the Warlord class that people have been asking for; and the player should just as well play a bard instead. The "Support Healing" and "Action Swapping" poll questions are fine. Temp HP granting is fine. Tactical buffs are fine. Tactical debuffs are questionable, because that's more the Wizard's thing; but listing it in the poll could be an informative exercise. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
What the warlord needs in 5e and how to make it happen.
Top