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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Guest 6801328" data-source="post: 7048007">Snipping down to the headings to save space....Sure, and you'd expect to see some kind of power law distribution, with one clear "winner".  But it's the shape of the curve in this case that raises my eyebrows.  If we're counting threads or posts then I would estimate the Warlord is ahead by an order of magnitude, over all the others combined.  And while a number of opponents jump into threads, for the most part the threads are started by the proponents.Pretty much every class has had it's share of complaints that its not faithful to older versions, or that key features were left out, or whatever.  But the discussion tends to fade away pretty quickly, only popping up when something relevant appears in UA.  Not so the Warlord.I'm glad you mentioned the gish, because my perception is pretty much what you describe, but (again, I missed 3rd and 4th editions) I don't really have the expertise to know for sure.  So, yes, I follow the discussions and despite all the gish-y options a lot of people aren't completely satisfied by those options.  So where are all the threads?  Where are the enumerations of the criteria that a gish has to meet?I don't doubt that some opponents of the Warlord are motivated by baggage from previous wars; there's some sort of culture war going on here.  But as somebody who stepped into the debate relatively recently, I am surprised...and suspicious...of the uncompromising pro-Warlord fervor that I perceive.  It goes way, way beyond, "Gosh class X was kind of fun; I wish they would bring that back."</blockquote>

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