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<blockquote data-quote="tuxgeo" data-source="post: 7048386" data-attributes="member: 61026"><p>I'm going to interpolate answers where they belong. </p><p></p><p> (see Corwin's post for what he quoted me saying.)</p><p>Of course the devs would have to provide it, if they choose to -- but I was not addressing them in the post.</p><p></p><p>Ah, yes: your original response to me, in which you stated that it sounds as though I thought I know more than the devs. That was an incorrect interpretation, because I was actually saying that Elfcrusher might not have considered a point of view.</p><p></p><p>In the context of my post, it should be clear that all of my comments <em><strong>were addressed to Elfcrusher,</strong></em> not to the devs. </p><p></p><p>Of course it is clear that we cannot know how much different stuff the devs have developed but not released -- because they haven't released it yet. And because that much is clear, it must also be clear that I wasn't saying that the devs have not developed such stuff -- because we cannot know how much they have developed but not released. Since "we" cannot, <em>that includes me</em>: "I" cannot. Since I cannot know that, such an interpretation could not rightly have represented what I was saying. </p><p></p><p>What I was saying was that Elfcrusher might have missed the notion that some Warlord-fans wanted a more thorough Warlord class -- "as much as can be fit into 5E" -- but I was addressing Elfcrusher when I said that. I wasn't addressing the devs; and since I wasn't addressing the devs, I cannot have been saying that I think they know less than I do.</p><p></p><p>Furthermore, we can guess (but not know) that the devs are getting summaries of the discussions on the forums; so it's likely that they know all the reasons people have previously stated. If that is indeed the case, then the devs already know about the desires of posters for a fuller Warlord class, and all of the posted reasons for those desires. Again, if the devs know all that, the only thing I can hope to do with such a post is to inform another poster, who might not have seen (because of the Ignore function, or for other reasons) some of the stated reasons.</p><p></p><p>Of course the devs do the developing. We also know that they play their cards close to their chests, so I don't know how much they know. What I do know, in this thread, is that Elfcrusher was stating a lack of understanding about possible reasons for wanting a full Warlord class. I was attempting to provide a further understanding of the reasons. I was most certainly <em>not</em> stating that I know any more than the devs. That's one of the reasons I didn't address them in the post: they're "third-person" to the discussion, not "second-person."</p><p></p><p>That is as clear as I can possibly be about the subject. </p><p>If you want to discuss it further, you will be discussing it with other people, not with me, as I believe I have already been as clear as I can.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tuxgeo, post: 7048386, member: 61026"] I'm going to interpolate answers where they belong. (see Corwin's post for what he quoted me saying.) Of course the devs would have to provide it, if they choose to -- but I was not addressing them in the post. Ah, yes: your original response to me, in which you stated that it sounds as though I thought I know more than the devs. That was an incorrect interpretation, because I was actually saying that Elfcrusher might not have considered a point of view. In the context of my post, it should be clear that all of my comments [I][B]were addressed to Elfcrusher,[/B][/I] not to the devs. Of course it is clear that we cannot know how much different stuff the devs have developed but not released -- because they haven't released it yet. And because that much is clear, it must also be clear that I wasn't saying that the devs have not developed such stuff -- because we cannot know how much they have developed but not released. Since "we" cannot, [I]that includes me[/I]: "I" cannot. Since I cannot know that, such an interpretation could not rightly have represented what I was saying. What I was saying was that Elfcrusher might have missed the notion that some Warlord-fans wanted a more thorough Warlord class -- "as much as can be fit into 5E" -- but I was addressing Elfcrusher when I said that. I wasn't addressing the devs; and since I wasn't addressing the devs, I cannot have been saying that I think they know less than I do. Furthermore, we can guess (but not know) that the devs are getting summaries of the discussions on the forums; so it's likely that they know all the reasons people have previously stated. If that is indeed the case, then the devs already know about the desires of posters for a fuller Warlord class, and all of the posted reasons for those desires. Again, if the devs know all that, the only thing I can hope to do with such a post is to inform another poster, who might not have seen (because of the Ignore function, or for other reasons) some of the stated reasons. Of course the devs do the developing. We also know that they play their cards close to their chests, so I don't know how much they know. What I do know, in this thread, is that Elfcrusher was stating a lack of understanding about possible reasons for wanting a full Warlord class. I was attempting to provide a further understanding of the reasons. I was most certainly [I]not[/I] stating that I know any more than the devs. That's one of the reasons I didn't address them in the post: they're "third-person" to the discussion, not "second-person." That is as clear as I can possibly be about the subject. If you want to discuss it further, you will be discussing it with other people, not with me, as I believe I have already been as clear as I can. [/QUOTE]
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