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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Baron Opal II" data-source="post: 8946438" data-attributes="member: 6794067">Not anymore. I used to have old school four saves (R/S/W being just Magic +2), and each class would have +2 to a certain save. You picked whether you added your Wisdom modifier (trust in Fate to get you out of scrapes) or your Charisma modifier (trust in Luck). You then added your level hoping to reach a total of 20. That was too complicated; which it could be overly complex, I guess. Two modifiers never change and the third increases by one every so often. But it was too much.I've toned down the consequences for a failed save as well.</blockquote>