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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ulrick" data-source="post: 4593971" data-attributes="member: 775">I think one reason 2e gets so much flak is because, at the time, there were better systems out there.  Still, one kept encountering 2e. At least those are the reason I kept getting whenever I'd try to run a 2e campaign and get no takers. Another criticism, however, that I've heard is that TSR bent over to the religious groups by getting rid of Demons and Devils. Which I admit annoyed me, too. I liked the core rules.  I thought they were better than 1e--except for the DMG.  Whenever I ran 2e, I always had the 1e DMG close at hand. 1e was good.  But 2e revised and condensed all those rules. After running my next campaign, which is 4e, I'll probably go back to 2e with some 3e houserules.</blockquote>