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<blockquote data-quote="Mircoles" data-source="post: 4596293" data-attributes="member: 53122">I hated the vancian magic system and race level caps, which never made sense to me. &nbsp;I had no problem with racial class restrictions or the demon/devil thing. &nbsp;I loved thaco, no more using charts to see if i hit. &nbsp;I liked the loose leaf MM. I didn't need the whole book when I ran an adventer, just the pages of the monsters that I was using. &nbsp;I defintely prefer the 2e bard over the 1e version. 5 levels as a fighter and then 5 levels as a thief befor you could actually be a bard. You started as a bard straight from the begining in 2e, thats much better. &nbsp;Over all, I would rather play 2e than 1e. 2e was better organized and had all the rules I needed to play in one book. There were rules for proficiencies in 1e, but they were in the wilderness and dungeoneers survival guides. The DMG was worthless though, I just used it for the magic items.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mircoles, post: 4596293, member: 53122"] I hated the vancian magic system and race level caps, which never made sense to me. I had no problem with racial class restrictions or the demon/devil thing. I loved thaco, no more using charts to see if i hit. I liked the loose leaf MM. I didn't need the whole book when I ran an adventer, just the pages of the monsters that I was using. I defintely prefer the 2e bard over the 1e version. 5 levels as a fighter and then 5 levels as a thief befor you could actually be a bard. You started as a bard straight from the begining in 2e, thats much better. Over all, I would rather play 2e than 1e. 2e was better organized and had all the rules I needed to play in one book. There were rules for proficiencies in 1e, but they were in the wilderness and dungeoneers survival guides. The DMG was worthless though, I just used it for the magic items. [/QUOTE]

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