What would you assign as the ECL of a Quasi-diety?

[Crom and His Devils]

Ok, quasi-dieties, as presented in DDg, have alot of nifty abilities: immunities galore, awesome DR, SR, and base speed increase. However, they gain no ability boosts, hit dice, or spell-like abilities. Given that, I want to hear some suggestions for an ECL.

 

[Grendel]

20

 

[hong]

20

Quasi-deities got the shaft.

 

[kreynolds]

Ok, quasi-dieties, as presented in DDg, have alot of nifty abilities: immunities galore, awesome DR, SR, and base speed increase. However, they gain no ability boosts, hit dice, or spell-like abilities. Given that, I want to hear some suggestions for an ECL.

You're forgetting one very important factor. How many class levels do they have?

 

[kreynolds]

Quasi-deities got the shaft.

As opposed to how they were in 2nd edition? (I wouldn't know what they used to be like) Is there something in particular that they left out that you would have liked to see?

 

[Crom and His Devils]

I think he was just responding to the wise-ass comment by Grendel.

 

[Crom and His Devils]

Re: Re: What would you assign as the ECL of a Quasi-diety?

You're forgetting one very important factor. How many class levels do they have?

Hmmm... I don't have my DDg with me at the moment, but what in the quasi-deity template is dependant on class level?

 

[kreynolds]

Re: Re: Re: What would you assign as the ECL of a Quasi-diety?

Hmmm... I don't have my DDg with me at the moment, but what in the quasi-deity template is dependant on class level?

Ummm....class levels heavily affect your ECL. If you are a fire genasi with no class levels, you have an ECL of 1. If you are a fire genasi with 20 class levels, you have an ECL of 21. See what I'm saying?

 

[Claude Raines]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What would you assign as the ECL of a Quasi-diety?

Ummm....class levels heavily affect your ECL. If you are a fire genasi with no class levels, you have an ECL of 1. If you are a fire genasi with 20 class levels, you have an ECL of 21. See what I'm saying?

What he is after is the increase in ECL from being a quasi-diety, not from the levels. Just as the half-dragon template is worth +4, how many pluses is the quasi-deity template. (And yes, I know it isn't technically stated out as a template, but it does give specific abilities.)

I would guess probably around +20 for ascended mortals, but +40 for natural quasi-dieties since they'll have 20 HD of outsider as well.

 

[Crom and His Devils]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What would you assign as the ECL of a Quasi-diety?

Ummm....class levels heavily affect your ECL. If you are a fire genasi with no class levels, you have an ECL of 1. If you are a fire genasi with 20 class levels, you have an ECL of 21. See what I'm saying?

Yes, and you're too pedantic. Any mention of ECL in regards to template, race, or whatever is pretty much referring to level adjustment value. You know, the number you add to class levels to gain ECL.