What would YOU do with a +65 Bluff?

[ForceUser]

So there's this guy in our bi-weekly Greyhawk game who plays a psion/rogue focused on social skills. He's 13th-level and through some miracle of number crunching has legally put together a +65 Bluff skill. I know he's got a +20 Bluff item, some synergy bonuses, a psionic power that adds to Bluff, max ranks, and a high Charisma.

Anyway, it's my impression that he is woefully selling short the potential of having such an insanely high skill modifier. He mostly uses it to use suggestion as an extraordinary ability and to change his alignment at will (both powers per the Epic Level Handbook). Those things are neat but, my god, are the least of what a clever player could accomplish when he can take 10 and get a 75!

If you were playing the "Charisma character" with a +65 Bluff skill, what would you use it for?

 

[alsih2o]

selling vaccuums

make dragon go on errands?

 

[der_kluge]

Convince people he's the king of a neighboring kingdom, and that he's been exiled, and to reclaim his throne, he needs to amass an army of loyal followers.

 

[Sixchan]

To the guards of the BBEG's lair:
"Oh, Hi. I'm selling bridges in Greyhawk city. I think your master would want to buy one."

And he could pull it off.

 

[Aust Diamondew]

Tell the king we were switched at birth and that the throne is rightfully mine.

Or if that'd destroy the campaign too much I'd just walk into random peoples homes and ask "what the hell are you doing in my house? GET OUT!"

 

[Rashak Mani]

I would say:

"Hi Nicole Kidman... I am the man you were waiting for all your life!"

(She would only get a +20 bonus to her sense motive too. From the 3.5 PHB: "The bluff is way out there almost too incredible to consider". The best part thou is further below thou: "A bluff requires interaction between you and the target." hehe )

 

[Enkhidu]

Hey ForceUser: aren't you one of Sep's readers? If so, remember what Eadric was able to do with Diplomacy checks around 40?

With a +60 bluff or so, I'm guessing that any lie he tells will succeed, no matter how outrageous. Remember John Lovitz's bad liar character on SNL? The "yeah, that's the ticket!" guy? Imagine if everything he said was immediately believed - then you've got a good idea what a +60 bluff would be like.

 

[Voadam]

If you were playing the "Charisma character" with a +65 Bluff skill, what would you use it for? [/B]

Walk up to Zeus/the king/etc. and say something like "Dad, I need some money."

Go up to Helen of Troy, Aphrodite, Sharess, etc. and say "Honey! I'm home!"

Go up to the head of Thay's gnoll army and say "The Zulkir of Enchantment/Illusion has gone rebel, I Zass Tam have ordered an immediate strike on his/her compound with overwhelming force, expect illusions/charmed dupes to attempt to stop the assault and order you to step down, don't fall for such trickery and don't fail me.

 

[ForceUser]

Hey ForceUser: aren't you one of Sep's readers? If so, remember what Eadric was able to do with Diplomacy checks around 40?

With a +60 bluff or so, I'm guessing that any lie he tells will succeed, no matter how outrageous. Remember John Lovitz's bad liar character on SNL? The "yeah, that's the ticket!" guy? Imagine if everything he said was immediately believed - then you've got a good idea what a +60 bluff would be like.

Yep, I am a rabid Sep fan. Even with a +65 Bluff I'd be subtle enough to not use straight deception; instead I'd mingle my Bluffs with half-truths to make them so believable that it's impossible for non-Epic characters to detect the falsehoods. I'd probably set myself up with a fortress and servants on my Bluff skill alone, and then work on making important political figures think they owe me favors.

That said, this is more of a Friday morning goof-off thread just for fun.

 

[KnowTheToe]

You could do a lot as a spy or diplomat. It would be boring, but boy could the character be successful.