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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 6073847" data-attributes="member: 22424">I don't see a problem with saying a first level spell is almost completely useless against a high-level monster - by the time they're facing that monster, the Wizard will have considerably more powerful spells at his command anyway.The thing is, the Fighter gains power on two axes (linear increases to BAB and hit points, plus access to feats); the Wizard gains power on three (they get more spells each level, they get higher level spells, and their existing spells become more powerful).In order for those two to ever be balanced, either the Fighter needs to get a third axis for improvement (Expertise Dice, I guess), or the Wizard needs to lose on of the three. IMO, losing the "existing spells become more powerful" is probably the least painful thing to change. YMMV, of course.<< snip a whole bunch of stuff I agree with >>Fair point, and I don't really disagree, except for one thing...I'm reasonably sure that the only reason the Warmage, Beguiler, and Dread Necromancer never got new spells added to their list was that WotC pulled the plug on the edition first. Had 3.5e continued another couple of years, I'm pretty sure they would have started getting new spells - that being an absolutely trivial way to increase the utility (and thus sales) of a new book.For that reason, I'm inclined to consider every Caster class to have a growing spell list, at least in theory.</blockquote>

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