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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6074810" data-attributes="member: 87792">Five foot step and web.Brute force deals with both these problems.  As I say, carry a crowbar if you don't have a rogue handy.  Lockpicking is a tool of stealth rather than one of opening - and by the time you reach the treasure the owners are normally dead (or the rogue isn't around to blame).The fighters were customised a lot more than the wizards.Three level 10 wizards vs a level 13 wizard?  The action economy has it unless there's a Contingency in place or the L13 wins initiative.  I thought the advantage a group of PCs had against a single NPC was well known.Given that I can't think of a single feat that adds more flexibility than a second level spell like Levitate (not counting either Spellcasting Prodigy or the Bo9S), and the number of spells a wizard gets is far in excess of the number of feats a fighter does, I'm going to have to go with "to very little extent".If the wizard focusses almost exclusively on 1 target Save or Suck spells that wizard is stupid.  Why don't you use as your example a wizard who focusses exclusively on stat buffs?  It's about as realistic.  For starters there are plenty of Area Save or Suck spells.  (Web, Glitterdust, Stinking Cloud, and Evard's Black Tentacles giving complete save coverage between them and all ignoring SR and Magic Immunity in 3.5).  Now there is a place for single target save or suck spells for the rare times you can't place AoEs.  Especially whatever that spell from Frostburn doing 3d6 Dex (and so having a good chance of 1-shotting a dragon) is.  But any approach that starts "If the wizard only focusses on one single thing" just means "If the wizard plays like a chump."  No one doubts that a badly played wizard can be useless.  Or dead.There are enough spells to deal with both.  And there's the "who gets initiative" quesion.Indeed.  Open Lock in the right situation is superb.  The right situation is as part of a team of conmen and thieves.  The average team of adventurers is about as subtle as a sledgehammer in terms of disguising where they've been (broken locks are the least of your worries).The big problem is that the fighter has two weak saves, and the wizard (unlike the fighter) has a get-out-of-jail-free button or two (Teleport, Contingency).What do you mean winning Encounter #1?A level 10 specialist wizard with an Int of 20 has 4 5th level spells, 5 4th and 3rd level spells, and 6 each of 1st-2rd level spells.  You think that our wizard is going to blow 26 spells in a single encounter?  This is even more absurd than the wizard with only single target save or suck spells.  There's a reason for E6 being E6 - at that point the wizard "only" has 14 substantial spells.Alternatively the wizard makes the whole thing irrelevant with teleport or Phantom Steed at higher levels.Assuming the wizard knows what's happened, a smart wizard takes off his hat or cloak and covers the crossbow bolt.  Silence is an emanation so you block it.  The other two wizards then proceed to AoE the goblins.Next?</blockquote>

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