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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6075647" data-attributes="member: 9037">Well first you have to buy the whole meme that one class is incredible and the rest or mediocre which sorry I don't. Well 4E balanced the classes to the point of making the game rigid and boring for a lot of us which is why we don't play it. Rogues are one of the most versatile classes in the game they are hardly useless. Not only are they best at sneaking around, opening locked doors ans treasure chests, they can handle themselves in combat and with use magic device they can access both  divine and arcane spells. A wizard may with spells be able to do some of what a rogue does when it comes to opening doors, but they give up combat spells to do so. They can emulate a fighter with certain buff spells but then they won't ever have the fighters BAB, amount of attacks and hit points. And they won't be able to cast any divine spells.Other than the rogue and the bard, the bard does do it as well, there are not a lot of classes that can cover every aspect of the game the way a rogue can.  Hardly a useless class.</blockquote>