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<blockquote data-quote="Ahnehnois" data-source="post: 6076479" data-attributes="member: 17106">I guess I see that as being a problem with the DM's campaign. If the DM plans to do something and the players find a way to circumvent it, that's just part of the game.I don't see why this would have come as a surprise. When I ran a nautical campaign, I put thought into teleportation and established reasons why the ship was being used. When I ran a session based on a teleport and the players had a mishap, I went with it and took the campaign somewhere it wouldn't otherwise have gone. I still don't see where the players doing unexpected things that circumvent the DM's plans is such a problem. If you want to railroad them, railroad them. If you don't, be ready to improvise.So you and the players agreed to a conceit for mutual enjoyment, ran a game, and put a note in the back of your head to resent the rules you voluntarily ignored to do it? Seems unnecessary to me.Sure there is. Rogue sneaks up behind a high-level NPC and kills him with one backstab. DM sets up a gladiator tournament for the fighter, and he ignores it and gives up the sword to romance another character. Bard diplomances an NPc into doing something he shouldn't. DM plans on any character going one way and he goes another. Players screw up DM plans all the time in ways big and small. The rules are a rather incidental participant in this dynamic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ahnehnois, post: 6076479, member: 17106"] I guess I see that as being a problem with the DM's campaign. If the DM plans to do something and the players find a way to circumvent it, that's just part of the game. I don't see why this would have come as a surprise. When I ran a nautical campaign, I put thought into teleportation and established reasons why the ship was being used. When I ran a session based on a teleport and the players had a mishap, I went with it and took the campaign somewhere it wouldn't otherwise have gone. I still don't see where the players doing unexpected things that circumvent the DM's plans is such a problem. If you want to railroad them, railroad them. If you don't, be ready to improvise. So you and the players agreed to a conceit for mutual enjoyment, ran a game, and put a note in the back of your head to resent the rules you voluntarily ignored to do it? Seems unnecessary to me. Sure there is. Rogue sneaks up behind a high-level NPC and kills him with one backstab. DM sets up a gladiator tournament for the fighter, and he ignores it and gives up the sword to romance another character. Bard diplomances an NPc into doing something he shouldn't. DM plans on any character going one way and he goes another. Players screw up DM plans all the time in ways big and small. The rules are a rather incidental participant in this dynamic. [/QUOTE]

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