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What would you say is the biggest problem with Wizards, Clerics, Druids, and other "Tier 1" Spellcasters?
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<blockquote data-quote="Elf Witch" data-source="post: 6077757" data-attributes="member: 9037"><p>We are going to have to agree to disagree on the core 3E being broken. I don't believe it is every edition has things that can be abused in a powergamer hands and every edition has flaws. As you play it you learn what works and what does not and then you if chose use rule 0.</p><p></p><p>Then you have never had a true optimizer who knows the system combine classes with prestige classes and make a character that is so over powered that to properly challenge him you end up wiping the floor with the rest of the party. </p><p></p><p>Excuse me I don't hurt players in my game. By having control with what comes into the game without my permission I stop players from showing up with these over powered choices and then I have to make them redesign the character. This way we discuss it ahead of time and it gives me a chance to look at it first and research it. If it is a prestige class I can work it it into the game world and start putting role playing opportunities so that the character has a role playing reason to have this new class. I do the same with multiclassing you have to at least role play out before hand an interest in adding a class. </p><p></p><p>I have seen plenty of clerics and druid multiclassing as well as wizard doing though not as much. Not everyone believes that every PC needs to have the best optimized build around. I am playing a human paragon 3/wizard 8. I have played a wizard/sorcerer, wizard/fighter, cleric/wizard. A popular combo seems to be cleric/paladin as well as druid/sorcerer. A popular one is rogue/bard/druid/PRC I don't remember the name of the prestige class at the moment.</p><p></p><p>By also not allowing splats in with freedom I stop all the spells from them just coming into my game. Don't forget clerics and druids know all their spells and there are some pretty powerful spells in the splat books. As well as some feats that I don't necessarily want in my game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elf Witch, post: 6077757, member: 9037"] We are going to have to agree to disagree on the core 3E being broken. I don't believe it is every edition has things that can be abused in a powergamer hands and every edition has flaws. As you play it you learn what works and what does not and then you if chose use rule 0. Then you have never had a true optimizer who knows the system combine classes with prestige classes and make a character that is so over powered that to properly challenge him you end up wiping the floor with the rest of the party. Excuse me I don't hurt players in my game. By having control with what comes into the game without my permission I stop players from showing up with these over powered choices and then I have to make them redesign the character. This way we discuss it ahead of time and it gives me a chance to look at it first and research it. If it is a prestige class I can work it it into the game world and start putting role playing opportunities so that the character has a role playing reason to have this new class. I do the same with multiclassing you have to at least role play out before hand an interest in adding a class. I have seen plenty of clerics and druid multiclassing as well as wizard doing though not as much. Not everyone believes that every PC needs to have the best optimized build around. I am playing a human paragon 3/wizard 8. I have played a wizard/sorcerer, wizard/fighter, cleric/wizard. A popular combo seems to be cleric/paladin as well as druid/sorcerer. A popular one is rogue/bard/druid/PRC I don't remember the name of the prestige class at the moment. By also not allowing splats in with freedom I stop all the spells from them just coming into my game. Don't forget clerics and druids know all their spells and there are some pretty powerful spells in the splat books. As well as some feats that I don't necessarily want in my game. [/QUOTE]
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