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What would you say is the biggest problem with Wizards, Clerics, Druids, and other "Tier 1" Spellcasters?
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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 6077809" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>For the record, oD&D was tested to death with powergamers before it was first released and doesn't break. 1e doesn't break in core. And 4e has been errata'd so it doesn't break. The only thing to truly abuse in 4e is consumables, and even they aren't utterly broken. 3e stands pretty much alone in being as easy to break as it is in the D&D family.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>A true optimiser who knows the system knows that the most powerful two classes in core are the wizard and the druid (the cleric needs a bit of splat support). And as a druid the joke is you only take prestige classes beginning with "P". And ending in "-lanar Shepherd". You do not <em>need</em> prestige classes to break wizards or druids - they are just icing on the cake.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Of course not. The issue is that the game should be able to <em>take</em> such PCs. Not that everyone is going to use them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 6077809, member: 87792"] For the record, oD&D was tested to death with powergamers before it was first released and doesn't break. 1e doesn't break in core. And 4e has been errata'd so it doesn't break. The only thing to truly abuse in 4e is consumables, and even they aren't utterly broken. 3e stands pretty much alone in being as easy to break as it is in the D&D family. A true optimiser who knows the system knows that the most powerful two classes in core are the wizard and the druid (the cleric needs a bit of splat support). And as a druid the joke is you only take prestige classes beginning with "P". And ending in "-lanar Shepherd". You do not [I]need[/I] prestige classes to break wizards or druids - they are just icing on the cake. Of course not. The issue is that the game should be able to [I]take[/I] such PCs. Not that everyone is going to use them. [/QUOTE]
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