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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6078966" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>But, in 3e, a monster wasn't "level 6", he was CR 6. And CR does not relate whatsoever to level. CR is a measure of how hard this thing is to kill versus a party of four of a given level. So a Troll (CR 5) is a moderate challenge to a 5th level party. </p><p></p><p>It speaks nothing to how this thing works as a PC. That's Level Adjustment. And given that a 1st level PC troll is equivalent to a 12th level PC (whether that's actually true or not is a matter of debate, but, that's where it's pegged), I'd say it's likely way out of line for a 7th level wizard to polymorph into. </p><p></p><p>Now, I have no problem with a troll as a CR 5 creature. It's about right. A 5th level party should be able to take a troll without too much trouble in a straight up fight. I wouldn't say that a troll is unbalanced.</p><p></p><p>Most monsters are fairly well balanced. A Behir is a CR 8 critter, and probably pretty reasonable at that. Might be a bit on the high side of CR 8, but not CR 9, most likely. But, in the hands of a player, it's much, much more powerful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, you could go that route actually. Drop the monsters down a large notch and make them a lot more similar to their AD&D counterparts. Would require a LOT of reworking to achieve though.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6078966, member: 22779"] But, in 3e, a monster wasn't "level 6", he was CR 6. And CR does not relate whatsoever to level. CR is a measure of how hard this thing is to kill versus a party of four of a given level. So a Troll (CR 5) is a moderate challenge to a 5th level party. It speaks nothing to how this thing works as a PC. That's Level Adjustment. And given that a 1st level PC troll is equivalent to a 12th level PC (whether that's actually true or not is a matter of debate, but, that's where it's pegged), I'd say it's likely way out of line for a 7th level wizard to polymorph into. Now, I have no problem with a troll as a CR 5 creature. It's about right. A 5th level party should be able to take a troll without too much trouble in a straight up fight. I wouldn't say that a troll is unbalanced. Most monsters are fairly well balanced. A Behir is a CR 8 critter, and probably pretty reasonable at that. Might be a bit on the high side of CR 8, but not CR 9, most likely. But, in the hands of a player, it's much, much more powerful. Yeah, you could go that route actually. Drop the monsters down a large notch and make them a lot more similar to their AD&D counterparts. Would require a LOT of reworking to achieve though. [/QUOTE]
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