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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8098870" data-attributes="member: 18">Literally no-one is asking for an intricate system.People are asking for a straightforward system that isn't spells. Like in, y'know, 3E or 4E. Even 2E's psionics was no more &quot;intricate&quot; than 2E's spells, just different.I'm not sure why you thinking making something up &quot;people want an intricate psionics system!&quot; and then arguing against it is &quot;doing your side favours&quot;, so that's pretty mystifying. Seems like a pretty cheap and obvious strawman argument to me.Oh dear. VSM are spell components. Not just material components. 99% of players don't use material components. Certainly the vast majority of groups use V&amp;S components when it matters (like when trying to cast a spell from stealth).ROFL. I love how eagerly you seize on this, like &quot;CHECKMATE, IVAN! Get back to the Soviet Union, you loser!&quot;, when in fact you've just misunderstood what &quot;spell components&quot; are.None of those are homebrew, mate. That's like opening a Bud Lite, drinking it down, and saying &quot;God I love homebrew beer!&quot;.You know what this is - this is Steamed Hams. You're Principal Skinner, and you're serving me &quot;steamed hams&quot;. I feel honoured in a way.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 8098870, member: 18"] Literally no-one is asking for an intricate system. People are asking for a straightforward system that isn't spells. Like in, y'know, 3E or 4E. Even 2E's psionics was no more "intricate" than 2E's spells, just different. I'm not sure why you thinking making something up "people want an intricate psionics system!" and then arguing against it is "doing your side favours", so that's pretty mystifying. Seems like a pretty cheap and obvious strawman argument to me. Oh dear. VSM are spell components. Not just material components. 99% of players don't use material components. Certainly the vast majority of groups use V&S components when it matters (like when trying to cast a spell from stealth). ROFL. I love how eagerly you seize on this, like "CHECKMATE, IVAN! Get back to the Soviet Union, you loser!", when in fact you've just misunderstood what "spell components" are. None of those are homebrew, mate. That's like opening a Bud Lite, drinking it down, and saying "God I love homebrew beer!". You know what this is - this is Steamed Hams. You're Principal Skinner, and you're serving me "steamed hams". I feel honoured in a way. [/QUOTE]

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