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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Baron Opal II" data-source="post: 8795128" data-attributes="member: 6794067">I have no problem with standardized spell lists, and having classes use those specific lists.However, I would (and do) expect different classes to have different mechanics to access those spells. Wizards memorize, sorcerers reflexively know, warlocks have invocations that might mimic spells, &c. We really don't know what the mechanics for the different classes are yet, and how they will change, if much at all.What we see of the ranger and bard I expect are stock spell selections to add some consistency to playtesting. Other mechanics are being previewed and I expect that they are simply removing a variable. I have picked up no indication that spellcasters are going to be standardized beyond "source" lists. Even that is subject to specializing, where ranger spells are going to all be from the Nature list, and there may be some that druids have access to and some they don't.And, I would expect bards (and warlocks should, based on pact) to be able to have the broadest selection of spells given the appropriate subclass.</blockquote>