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Message: <blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8795209" data-attributes="member: 93670">I suspect the same.  Going by the wording of elements that we have in the packet and what sorcerer has had in the past  I wouldn't be surprised to see some of this for the sorcerer:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">May go back to being con based as it was in at least part of Next</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will follow a similar flex-vancian style of prep that bard & ranger uses<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">possibly with a wider (or similarly narrowed) selection from the arcane list</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The sorcerer will go back to having more spell slots [spoiler="ie this was their 3.5 progression for example of 'more'"] ——————— Spells per Day ——————————— 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 3 — — — — — — — — 4 — — — — — — — — 5 — — — — — — — — 6 3 — — — — — — — 6 4 — — — — — — — 6 5 3 — — — — — — 6 6 4 — — — — — — 6 6 5 3 — — — — — 6 6 6 4 — — — — — 6 6 6 5 3 — — — — 6 6 6 6 4 — — — — 6 6 6 6 5 3 — — — 6 6 6 6 6 4 — — — 6 6 6 6 6 5 3 — — 6 6 6 6 6 6 4 — — 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 3 — 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 4 — 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 5 3 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 4 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 6 [/spoiler] Or they will have the same number of prep slots with a bunch of sorcerery points each long rest that they can use to create slots</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will almost certainly shed the old learn 1 spell/level & just prep from the arcane list or a selection of it like bard& ranger do.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Be the home to swordmage & other gish flavored caster archetypes with dragon sorc & such following suit  (especially if it's con based)<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">This might go with a shift from 1/1 caster progression to 2/3 caster progression to make room in the class budget for more powerful bloodline themed abilities to fit those</li> </ul></li> </ul>The wizard:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Might have a different spellbook growth to limit dip power since <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/spells?filter-class=0&filter-class=8&filter-search=&filter-level=1&filter-verbal=&filter-somatic=&filter-material=&filter-concentration=&filter-ritual=t&filter-sub-class=" target="_blank">so many </a>ritual spells are first level (ie start with 2-5 in spellbook & gain 3/level with some archetypes giving school or theme based spells on top)<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">or that will be similar to now but there will be much better guidance on ensuring scrolls spellbooks & places to copy spells from</li> </ul></li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will have spell slot numbers & progression similar to they have now</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will have a quantum or semiquantum spellbook where much if not all of the spells within are always considered prepared</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will be fragile & squishy again to a meaningful degree either directly or via other system changes that seem likely</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Will be the home of pure caster type archetypes that already tend to lean towards wizards<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Those archetypes are likely to bring more oomph to spells within their niche  that is made available by rebalancing existing & often borked spells as we've seen a couple examples of already.</li> </ul></li> </ul>Warlock & priest group I have no guesses on yet.</blockquote>

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