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<blockquote data-quote="Benjamin Olson" data-source="post: 8560872" data-attributes="member: 6988941"><p>I enjoyed it well enough as someone who hadn't read the books. But that involved me giving it a lot of benefit of the doubt that the reasons for the weaker aspects had to do with the necessities of editing it down or flaws with the source material. As a work of cheesy television fantasy its fine.</p><p></p><p>My feelings now as someone who just read the first book is that as a "reboot" it's a pretty mediocre one. Changing things was necessary, sure. The original work was not some perfect, unimpeachable masterpiece, sure. But every change they made caused something else in this intricately thought out fantasy world to unravel, and whatever consortium of overworked, on-a-deadline television writers were in charge of the adapting collectively just allowed this to leave lots of plot-holes, world-building inconsistencies, and frustratingly annoying character traits. They had lots of solid ideas for ways to simplify, streamline, or bring in line with contemporary tastes, but they also had poor, messy execution of those ideas. As they veer further from the source material later in the season it works a little bit better on its own terms, but has more inconsistencies, has more frustrating characters, and fills in a lot of gaps with generic, budget television fantasy cliché. If you have read and actually remember book 1 of the series I think it's a dissatisfying show to watch, even trying to appreciate it on its own terms. If you have investment in the series it lets you down.</p><p></p><p>There are also lots of things that happen just because the show doesn't trust its audience to pay very close attention, be very patient, or understand things that are not made incredibly obvious, making it just not the type of show that fits well for someone who has the sort of patience, recall, and passion for the genre the books seem to require. So whether or not someone has actually read the books, if you are the <em>type</em> of person who would actually enjoy a fantasy series with literal thousands of named characters the show isn't really optimized for your enjoyment.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Benjamin Olson, post: 8560872, member: 6988941"] I enjoyed it well enough as someone who hadn't read the books. But that involved me giving it a lot of benefit of the doubt that the reasons for the weaker aspects had to do with the necessities of editing it down or flaws with the source material. As a work of cheesy television fantasy its fine. My feelings now as someone who just read the first book is that as a "reboot" it's a pretty mediocre one. Changing things was necessary, sure. The original work was not some perfect, unimpeachable masterpiece, sure. But every change they made caused something else in this intricately thought out fantasy world to unravel, and whatever consortium of overworked, on-a-deadline television writers were in charge of the adapting collectively just allowed this to leave lots of plot-holes, world-building inconsistencies, and frustratingly annoying character traits. They had lots of solid ideas for ways to simplify, streamline, or bring in line with contemporary tastes, but they also had poor, messy execution of those ideas. As they veer further from the source material later in the season it works a little bit better on its own terms, but has more inconsistencies, has more frustrating characters, and fills in a lot of gaps with generic, budget television fantasy cliché. If you have read and actually remember book 1 of the series I think it's a dissatisfying show to watch, even trying to appreciate it on its own terms. If you have investment in the series it lets you down. There are also lots of things that happen just because the show doesn't trust its audience to pay very close attention, be very patient, or understand things that are not made incredibly obvious, making it just not the type of show that fits well for someone who has the sort of patience, recall, and passion for the genre the books seem to require. So whether or not someone has actually read the books, if you are the [I]type[/I] of person who would actually enjoy a fantasy series with literal thousands of named characters the show isn't really optimized for your enjoyment. [/QUOTE]
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