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<blockquote data-quote="dragoner" data-source="post: 8458917" data-attributes="member: 6943731"><p>I think it is fine either way, say it is, or it isn't, as a case could be made for either, with the hypothetical or in reality. I mean Byzantium is a very poetic form of saying the Eastern Roman Empire, and most who had studied the subject, that is the first thing they learn. There is not exactly a direct lineage between Constantine I and Constantine XI, some Basileus, gained the throne by right of assassination, the situation was highly chaotic. Seems a bit of a stretch to call it a 'direct political line of succession'. Nobody is arguing there is not continuity; though it almost could be argued the Ottomans were the same, as they adopted much of what was the Byzantine way into their own, such as the Cataphract, become the Sipahi. I would say not in a lot of ways, except to mention the similarity was there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dragoner, post: 8458917, member: 6943731"] I think it is fine either way, say it is, or it isn't, as a case could be made for either, with the hypothetical or in reality. I mean Byzantium is a very poetic form of saying the Eastern Roman Empire, and most who had studied the subject, that is the first thing they learn. There is not exactly a direct lineage between Constantine I and Constantine XI, some Basileus, gained the throne by right of assassination, the situation was highly chaotic. Seems a bit of a stretch to call it a 'direct political line of succession'. Nobody is arguing there is not continuity; though it almost could be argued the Ottomans were the same, as they adopted much of what was the Byzantine way into their own, such as the Cataphract, become the Sipahi. I would say not in a lot of ways, except to mention the similarity was there. [/QUOTE]
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