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<blockquote data-quote="Olaf the Stout" data-source="post: 5803781" data-attributes="member: 13703"><p>Based on the info you provided, I'd boot him now.</p><p></p><p>1. He is making your wife unhappy (and her unhappiness seems quite justified)</p><p>2. He was given a talking to and you spent several hours helping him out. The very next session his behaviour has improved a little, but still doesn't sound particularly acceptable. I would expect the next session after being talked to to have the biggest improvement. So I can only see him gradually regressing back to his previous behaviour from here.</p><p>3. His play style doesn't seem to fit the rest of your group. Heavy powergamer and doesn't like when his character isn't the best at absolutely everything.</p><p>4. Poor social skills. I still ask my best friend of 13 years if I can have a drink when I'm at his house. I don't think he would mind if I just grabbed one, but it is just polite to ask. I certainly would not even ask if I could drink the juice out of someone's fridge when I had only met them 4 times total.</p><p></p><p>I have only ever boot 1 player from my group, and even then it was a passive-agressive boot*. He was my friend and it wasn't so much to do with being rude to others or anything like that. It was more due to the fact that he was basically the "crazy cat-piss man of our group".</p><p></p><p>He was about 27 at the time, had never had a job, didn't have a car licence, lived in a unit his parents owned and had pretty poor social skills. Apart from our fortnightly gaming session, I think he was basically a hermit, other than leaving the house to buy food.</p><p></p><p>The worst part though was his hygiene. Being the kind friend that I was, I stupidly said to him that, since he didn't have a car, he could stay at my house when we gamed and just catch the train with me in the morning. Bad decision.</p><p></p><p>He smelt so much that I would have to put the AC on and wind the window down in the car for the 4 minute drive from the train station to my house. You can only imagine what that was like the next morning after sleeping in your clothes and not showering.</p><p></p><p>After each game my wife would comment that everywhere around the table would be clean, except for a ring of crud where my friend sat. A character sheet I game him one week came back 2 weeks later looking like it had been crumpled up and left in the bin during that whole time.</p><p></p><p>Eventually I decided that enough was enough. He wasn't adding anything to the game, he was stinking up my house and car and the wife wasn't pleased with the mess he made just by existing! So I passively-agressively got rid of him*.</p><p></p><p>Looking back now, although I could have been more direct about it, it wouldn't have changed his hobo ways. At no point have I ever regretted my choice to boot him and I'm only sorry I didn't do it sooner. A bit sad to say that about a friend, but tis the truth.</p><p></p><p>Olaf the Stout</p><p></p><p>*I told him we were having a break due to the upcoming birth of my first child. In reality we replaced him straight away with another player and kept playing for several more months. A baby break did happen at that point but I never had any intention of inviting him back into the group.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Olaf the Stout, post: 5803781, member: 13703"] Based on the info you provided, I'd boot him now. 1. He is making your wife unhappy (and her unhappiness seems quite justified) 2. He was given a talking to and you spent several hours helping him out. The very next session his behaviour has improved a little, but still doesn't sound particularly acceptable. I would expect the next session after being talked to to have the biggest improvement. So I can only see him gradually regressing back to his previous behaviour from here. 3. His play style doesn't seem to fit the rest of your group. Heavy powergamer and doesn't like when his character isn't the best at absolutely everything. 4. Poor social skills. I still ask my best friend of 13 years if I can have a drink when I'm at his house. I don't think he would mind if I just grabbed one, but it is just polite to ask. I certainly would not even ask if I could drink the juice out of someone's fridge when I had only met them 4 times total. I have only ever boot 1 player from my group, and even then it was a passive-agressive boot*. He was my friend and it wasn't so much to do with being rude to others or anything like that. It was more due to the fact that he was basically the "crazy cat-piss man of our group". He was about 27 at the time, had never had a job, didn't have a car licence, lived in a unit his parents owned and had pretty poor social skills. Apart from our fortnightly gaming session, I think he was basically a hermit, other than leaving the house to buy food. The worst part though was his hygiene. Being the kind friend that I was, I stupidly said to him that, since he didn't have a car, he could stay at my house when we gamed and just catch the train with me in the morning. Bad decision. He smelt so much that I would have to put the AC on and wind the window down in the car for the 4 minute drive from the train station to my house. You can only imagine what that was like the next morning after sleeping in your clothes and not showering. After each game my wife would comment that everywhere around the table would be clean, except for a ring of crud where my friend sat. A character sheet I game him one week came back 2 weeks later looking like it had been crumpled up and left in the bin during that whole time. Eventually I decided that enough was enough. He wasn't adding anything to the game, he was stinking up my house and car and the wife wasn't pleased with the mess he made just by existing! So I passively-agressively got rid of him*. Looking back now, although I could have been more direct about it, it wouldn't have changed his hobo ways. At no point have I ever regretted my choice to boot him and I'm only sorry I didn't do it sooner. A bit sad to say that about a friend, but tis the truth. Olaf the Stout *I told him we were having a break due to the upcoming birth of my first child. In reality we replaced him straight away with another player and kept playing for several more months. A baby break did happen at that point but I never had any intention of inviting him back into the group. [/QUOTE]
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